I was looking today for the OSGrid TOS, and was suprised that there isn't one posted (there is a spot for it on the website, however there is no TOS posted there).

What are the actual rules and TOS for OsGrid? I have been talking to people from SL and this has come up in the form of the question 'can we open a Casino like in the old sl days?' and as far as I can tell, there is no rule preventing gambling in OsGrid because there are no rules currently posted anywhere to be found.

Is there a Tos or is OsGrid the current Wild Wild West of the Virtual Worlds? If so, where can I point people to to see these rules?

Why do you need rules, it's been running fine with out them. A person can't just be decent gotta have lawyers & rules, just let it go. Be yourself, respect others & thier views, anything bad report it here or to hosts. why do you need or want to be governed - isn't there enough of that in 1st life, look at how good that's working. Lol

Not much worry about casinos for profit at this time as thier is no money. not much can be done about em anyway because each sim may be hosted in a foreign land or even be a stand alone. And for each his own what's wrong with gambling - pick on your own vice.

Well sometimes it helps with leetiong those know that you dont allow harassment or such as if theres no control in community not everyone is gunna have the sdame mind as everyone else. Get people that will cause trouble as to thinking hey no rules great i can do anything! and goes and starts randomly harassing and shooting people and griefing and messing with others builds and more.....But yes theres more important things like making things stable and getting features working. If theres no rules it can turn to drama.

Again I disagree, each host can set his or her own rules or lack there of, it's there regions.

I apologize, maybe I seemed a bit harsh in my 1st rant, but it seems to me at this point in osgrid development - treat others the way you wanna be treated is about the only rule you need,

if someone's an idiot report it here in the forums, irc, townhall meetings, to one of the developers / staff - like adelle. If it's a problem it will be addressed, at least it has worked well so far. A lot less greifers etc here than in sl (no shortage of rules there, have they really helped)

No, do not name and shame people on the forums, in IRC or on the website. Doing so is a very provoking method and can result in hostile repercussions; Never feed a troll.

Instead, if someone is causing you particulat harm in any way then report it to the region owner. Then it is upto the region owner whether to take further action. If this happens on an OSgrid operated region, then report it directly to one of the grid admins.

But never name and shame, doing so is actually lowering yourself to the same level.

Good point Adelle, it's better to report it in private & let the appropriate person deal with it.

This isnt sl thank god. If you want someone holding your hand. If you want some daddy figure you can tell about the mean person you dont like who you want to "get".. dont come here.

The core difference between osgrid and sl: You come to my region youre in my house . I dont like you then you're the hell out of my house. Nobody to whine to. Nobody to start drama with. We like grownups here.. regardless of their age. If you're looking for drama SL is the place for you. If youre looking for good people into making friends and building and not getting anally r*ped for server space.. well SL is your home.

We dont do drama here.

lancelot, have you noticed this is an old thread?

I am aware that OSgrid does not yet have TOS, but make no mistake, its a question of time rather than "if ever"...

Eryn

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Who needs rules when you have common sense?
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I agree. While the general "Golden Rule" works and individual rules for regions is fine, I'm afraid that "the live and let live attitude" wont cut it any more in these modern times. All it will take is someone up to no good and a threatened law suit for not specifically prohibiting under age sex for example, and it will be TOS or shut down the grid.

IIRC OSgrid is having a TOS drafted anyway by some legal firm, I remember reading it in these forums. While I agree that just treating people with respect should be enough, sadly there are people in the world that do not follow the same moral codes as the majority. While laws and rules do not prevent such antisocial behaviour, they DO allow action and justice to be enacted, and offenders dealt with or punished. Without TOS and rules someone can simply claim "there was no rules or TOS, so I thought it was ok to go round shooting people" or whatever the case may be.

I love this statment

"While the general "Golden Rule" works and individual rules for regions is fine, I'm afraid that "the live and let live attitude" wont cut it any more in these modern times"

To be honest this is how it will have to be with a grid like OSGrid as the only thing the ToS would cover is the inventory and asset server. logins would be a problem depending were you logged in from but again would only affect osgrid hosted regions.

With each sim/region being in many different locations around the world one would assume with 90% certainty that the laws of the land would apply to were the sim is actually hosted which for osgrid would be a great thing.
This allows osgrid to maintain limited rules ie. don't store copyrighted items on our servers.

Granted some could say well you are connected to osgrid so have to follow there rules but to be fair i see osgrid as a dns server which just points you in the right direction so really in most country's you would have some protection as just being a isp/directory/gateway

This i think is were OSgrid will rule it has the advantage that second life never. It has the opportunity to be totally open completely left to the owners/creators of the sims if you want to run a casino place your server in a country that lets you lol you want to run a strip club again place it in a country that doesn't worry about it. there are limitless possibilities with this scenario.

Can you imagine it asset servers all round the world inventory servers all around the world OSgrid as the front door the jump point of many interconnected hyper grids each with its own rules This would be a true open 3d world.


If rules have to be brought in they must be scrutinised in every way you have one shot to get it right the first time you only have to look across the virtual world at SL to see what has been lost with to tight a control.

hmmm time to get back to sleep soz for the rants