Well I am glad my opening comment was to your liking.

While you and I agree that OSG shouldn't be responsible or held accountable for what goes on in regions not owned by OSG directly, a TOS pointing that out and making it clear from a legal stand point would be desirable. Especially for folks that come from SL, who may not understand the differences and nature of OSG compared to SL. Such as...

1. OSgrid is not responsible for content, TOS, or rules on regions not owned or operated by OSGrid. See each individual region owner for their region's TOS.
2. To connect a region to OSGrid, region owners must ensure that content and activity on their region complies with local laws in the country in which your region server is located.

One thing that this whole topic has made me realise, is that I am responsible for rules and TOS on my regions. It is very easy to tp from place to place in OSG and get the sense that it is one cohesive whole like sl, but in reality it is not. Interesting thoughts indeed.

and there we have the perfect TOS i completely agree Justin the below points make the perfect rules any one in OSgrid willing to set them in stone

1. OSgrid is not responsible for content, TOS, or rules on regions not owned or operated by OSGrid. See each individual region owner for their region's TOS.
2. To connect a region to OSGrid, region owners must ensure that content and activity on their region complies with local laws in the country in which your region server is located.
3. Be Good to all

Lol...Glad to of helped....

you'll be receiving my bill for legal services shortly

Now this was my point from the start if we don't get it right the first time we all have to start paying legal bills lmao

Still its shame you were right it wont just be this easy to get a simple set of rules in place that protects OSgrid but leaves us unrestricted at the same time there must be some way of doing it.

For instance what would be the rules if you were a OSgrid user but hyper gridded to another grid your still using OSgrid servers for inventory msg and such. do the preceding tos rules apply or the new grid rules lol. plus what if we did all host our inventory/assets local does that help in reliving restriction to osgrid does this change it even more as OSgrid is just a gateway now hmmm makes me think as well the connection for our sims is more than one way, well we connect to say were on line to OSgrid servers but the rest of the communication is back to us so is OSgrid not connecting to use ???

Some how OSgrid needs to place its self well in the usa at least as a service provider giving them some protection at least lol

Greetings,
please allow me predict some legal risks for OSG
1) inventory service - spreading of copyrighted or unlawful content (similar to image hosting TOS)
2) inventory service - loss of data
3) grid&grid search - minors having access to adult content
4) grid&grid search - prospective propagation of racism and much more (content of sims visible via search)
5) services - outage of sim hosting companies(profit loss)

and much much more. I believe that is only matter of time until when an idiot with legal skills will appear

Bo

hmmm copyrighted items will always be a problem but that's easy ish to deal with as long as OSgrid complies with the dcma-thingy they should be protected.
That still leaves the main problem which is how much control or restriction will OSgrid as a entity be able to exercise or need to over the sims/regions connected to them not forgetting connected to is a very loose statement as they are also more connected to us

plus another thing that is playing in my mind at least for me i would have no problem OSgrid having some sort of basic Grid control over my sims mainly for grabbing lets say pain in the buts trying to annoy others from my sims and the such lol but again that would have its own TOS problems

as for search i don't no i have my kids playing on OSgrid and they love it building and exploring but the search would be a problem not sure if its best authenticating 18 or older or to leave it again suppose it depends on if OSgrid can call its self a service seen as google shows 18+ items to people younger without having problems with the law plus my kids seem to be able to find better stuff on the net than i can ???

Actually these TOS (as far as i understand sense of it) should tell clearly 3 things:
1) while you are connecting your sim to the free service you have no guarantees of anything
2) parents(or educators at school time) are solely responsible to prevent kids access adult content
3) those who are in control over simulators are solely responsible for any data provided by their simulators including data provided to search services.

While there is no money in the thing the legal risks are not so extreme as for example in the SL. But any simulator owner and any user has right know that he can claim no rights on anything (or expect something).

Bo

OK Fake (just in case) + (these terms may explode at any time) OSgrid ToS

1. while you are connecting your sim to the free service you have no guarantees of anything.
2. OSgrid is not responsible for content, TOS, or rules on regions not owned or operated by OSGrid. See each individual region owner for their region's TOS.
3. To connect a region to OSGrid, region owners must ensure that content and activity on their region complies with local laws in the country in which your region server is located.
4. those who are in control over simulators are solely responsible for any data provided by their simulators including data provided to search services.
5. parents(or educators at school time) are solely responsible to prevent kids access to adult content
6. Be Good to all

Job done

Yeah, advantage of Linden-like simulators is that all data goes via them to central services, so consortium can be free of troubles while makes sim owners responsible. And sim owners are hard to be targeted

Nicely sumarised, btw;-)

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