Nudity in PG sim Wright Plaza

Fred Leftwich · **Joined:** Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:25 am **Posts:** 36

Was looking through Wright Plaza which is a PG rated region.

Melis Designs has a skin texture which shows female nudity front and back.

Not trying to be a prude but if the region is PG then it should be PG

Key Gruin · **Posted:** Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:09 am

From the Motion Picture Association of America's description of ratings at:
http://www.mpaa.org/ratings/what-each-rating-means

Quote:

PG — Parental Guidance Suggested. Some Material May Not Be Suitable For Children......There may be some profanity and some depictions of violence or brief nudity. But these elements are not deemed so intense as to require that parents be strongly cautioned beyond the suggestion of parental guidance.....

Since this isn't a motion picture, we can interpret "brief nudity" differently. If a minor were visiting that shop, they would not be able to linger since they are under parental guidance and would be pulled away if the parent didn't want them to see the nudity.

I tried to find the shop this morning but while waiting for the scene to rezz, I got sidetracked by RL but in my opinion, images of nudity is OK for PG if not sexually suggestive.

Jamie Wright · **Posted:** Mon Apr 09, 2012 9:39 am

I think that's fair Key. Nudity is not necessarily sexual unless presented within the context of sexuality. I would not shelter my child from a nude painting that was simply a portrait. The body is a natural thing. We all have skin:)

ZZ Bottom · **Joined:** Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:44 pm **Posts:** 83

Wise post Jamie!

Fred Leftwich · **Joined:** Fri Mar 16, 2012 12:25 am **Posts:** 36

Key Gruin wrote:

From the Motion Picture Association of America's description of ratings at:
http://www.mpaa.org/ratings/what-each-rating-means

Quote:

PG — Parental Guidance Suggested. Some Material May Not Be Suitable For Children......There may be some profanity and some depictions of violence or brief nudity. But these elements are not deemed so intense as to require that parents be strongly cautioned beyond the suggestion of parental guidance.....

Since this isn't a motion picture, we can interpret "brief nudity" differently. If a minor were visiting that shop, they would not be able to linger since they are under parental guidance and would be pulled away if the parent didn't want them to see the nudity.

I tried to find the shop this morning but while waiting for the scene to rezz, I got sidetracked by RL but in my opinion, images of nudity is OK for PG if not sexually suggestive.

Ok thanks I never knew that rating allowed for brief nudity. I can't think of any PG movies I have ever seen that feature frontal nudity, but they could be out there and I just never saw them. When I am in a PG sim on sl or inworldz I never expect to see frontal nudity (I am not talking about a tasteful painting or some such art)...but that is just my misconception I guess.

In fact here where they only mention 'topless women' implies that 'bottomless women' are not considered appropriate at PG. Certainly naked skins showing fully sexual mature frontal and back nudity is a little more than briefly showing 'topless women'.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motion_pic ... ing_system

Code:

PG – Parental Guidance Suggested – Some Material May Not Be Suitable For Children. These films are generally appropriate for children age 9 and older and may contain milder swear words, brief smoking, crude or suggestive humor, short and infrequent horror moments and/or mild violence. Usually no drug use is acceptable in this category. Topless men may be present but topless women are not usually acceptable unless in an educational or scientific context or if the nudity is only shown briefly. A few racial insults may also be heard. Before the creation of PG-13, many "PG" films (e.g. Jaws and Watership Down) included explicit bloody violence. Content such as this helped lead to the creation of the "PG-13" rating.

I am older so growing up PG meant parental guidance *suggested* usually meaning there was violence or profanity in the movie, but nudity was really never considered. So if a region is PG I thought the implication of *suggested* meant that a parent would not *necessarily* be there whereas the R-rating in movies *requires* an adult for children under 17. I always associated 'Mature' regions like I would a rated-R movie.

But anyway, I only mentioned about the Wright Plaza naked skins because for some reason I assumed OSgrid wanted their PG plazas to not have such content out in the open since it was PG. I certainly am not trying to tell OSgrid how to run their sims, I was just trying to be helpful as I thought it was simply something that no one had noticed yet. I had a different idea of what PG meant.

Linda Kellie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:33 am **Posts:** 13

I saw that there once too and I was thinking that it shouldn't be there. To me even skin signs showing nipples or other private parts should NOT be in a PG area. I wouldn't be saying this if there were an 18+ grid. But since OSG apparently has no rules on real life age of residents I think that PG should be what kids are allowed to see. It's not like the grid has "G" rated sims so PG is considered the safest.

To me this should go for women who stand around LBSA in see through tops too.

I am for sure not a prude but I am a mom (one that would never in a million years allow my child on the grid). But the fact that children do come here means we have an obligation to protect them. We wouldn't want them seeing full frontal nudity on tv or in rl.

Just my opinion of course.

Bo Iwu · **Posted:** Mon Apr 09, 2012 12:27 pm

I agree. There is no space for nudity on a PG sim.

Linda Kellie · **Joined:** Wed Mar 14, 2012 8:33 am **Posts:** 13

Apparently, The word on the streets is that Neb took care of it by covering up the "parts" with black prims. So it looks like problem solved.

Han Held · **Posted:** Tue Apr 10, 2012 11:49 am

When it comes to the plazas, this is one of the places where I think that emulating Linden Lab's CYA policies might not be a bad idea. SL no longer has "pg" areas, but "general" areas; closer to "g rated" than "pg rated". (their "mature rated" areas are closer to what I think most people would consider "pg-13").

Here's how they define the standards for their "general" areas:

Quote:

A region designated General is not allowed to advertise or make available content or activity that is sexually explicit, violent, or depicts nudity. Sexually-oriented objects such as "sex beds" or poseballs may not be located or sold in General regions.

General regions are areas where you should feel free to say and do things that you would be comfortable saying and doing in front of your grandmother or a grade school class. Institutions such as universities, conference organizers, and real world businesses may wish to designate their regions as General. Likewise their users (and others) may wish to employ Second Life's General search setting to focus and filter search results appropriately.

Some landowners and Residents desire a Second Life experience distinct from the activity that occurs in Moderate and Adult regions. Region owners who wish to host this sort of Second Life experience can (but need not) designate their regions as General.

If you are a region owner and you feel there is some ambiguity as to whether your content and activities are allowed in General regions, it's probably best to designate your region as Moderate.

Here's a link to the full page, if anyone's interested: http://community.secondlife.com/t5/Engl ... a-p/700119

ZZ Bottom · **Joined:** Mon Jan 16, 2012 1:44 pm **Posts:** 83

Deleted above posts of mine cause i guess that its useless to inflame on a theme that requires that one remenbers that the culture that she/he is used to know, can be different from others.
So, unless it will be mandatory to use a burka to visit OSG, i'll use my common sense that i think is not as different as any other posting on this subject!

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