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 Post subject: Saturday Q&A for October 27th, 2018
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[2018/10/27 10:53] Koni Lanzius: YARRR, AVAST YEE< MATEYS!
[2018/10/27 10:53] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[2018/10/27 10:53] albertlr Landar: Hello Koni
[2018/10/27 10:53] Koni Lanzius: hey Cilla
[2018/10/27 10:54] Koni Lanzius: hi Albirtar
[2018/10/27 10:54] Koni Lanzius: gweeting dan
[2018/10/27 10:54] albertlr Landar: How are the Elf's doing these days on OSgrid.
[2018/10/27 10:54] Koni Lanzius: FOOBY!
[2018/10/27 10:54] albertlr Landar: Hello Fu
[2018/10/27 10:54] Koni Lanzius: they are expanding!
[2018/10/27 10:54] Fu Barr: Koni :)
[2018/10/27 10:55] Fu Barr: Albertlr :)
[2018/10/27 10:55] Fu Barr: Foxx :)
[2018/10/27 10:55] albertlr Landar: BTW, did the other grid support Var regions.
[2018/10/27 10:55] Fu Barr: Cilla :)
[2018/10/27 10:55] Koni Lanzius: not only has Snoots set up his own VAR, Peter Lioncourt , the eldar of the group is currently setting up a VAR
[2018/10/27 10:55] Foxx Bode: -*- HeLlO-*-
[2018/10/27 10:55] Fu Barr: Dr Banner... :)
[2018/10/27 10:55] Ayesha Rasmuson is Online
[2018/10/27 10:55] DJ Higher is Offline
[2018/10/27 10:55] Koni Lanzius: heya Foxx
[2018/10/27 10:55] albertlr Landar: Hello Foxx
[2018/10/27 10:56] dan banner: hi
[2018/10/27 10:56] albertlr Landar: Well temperatures have now dropped down here in GA, so I guess the nothern states have too.
[2018/10/27 10:56] Koni Lanzius: wow
[2018/10/27 10:56] Koni Lanzius: incoming dwagon
[2018/10/27 10:57] Snoots Dwagon: ~*~ Hello! ~*~
[2018/10/27 10:57] albertlr Landar: welcome Snoots
[2018/10/27 10:57] Fu Barr: Snoots :)
[2018/10/27 10:57] Foxx Bode: -*- HeLlO-*-
[2018/10/27 10:57] Snoots Dwagon: Koni dat a pretty kewl pirate. :D
[2018/10/27 10:58] Koni Lanzius: thank you sweetie
[2018/10/27 10:58] Koni Lanzius: YARR
[2018/10/27 10:58] Snoots Dwagon: YARR!
[2018/10/27 10:58] albertlr Landar: whats a negative NARR
[2018/10/27 10:58] Koni Lanzius: heheh
[2018/10/27 10:58] Koni Lanzius: ~** HAHAHA! **~
[2018/10/27 10:58] Snoots Dwagon: Do you know wot a pirate says while knitting?
[2018/10/27 10:58] albertlr Landar: have no idea
[2018/10/27 10:58] Snoots Dwagon: YAAAARRN
[2018/10/27 10:59] albertlr Landar: oh sounds good to me harr harr harr
[2018/10/27 10:59] Koni Lanzius: heheh
[2018/10/27 10:59] Snoots Dwagon: mwahahahahahaha...
[2018/10/27 10:59] Koni Lanzius: ~** HAHAHA! **~
[2018/10/27 10:59] Snoots Dwagon: Dat a terrible joke. Don't encourage da dwagon.
[2018/10/27 10:59] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[2018/10/27 11:00] Snoots Dwagon: HI da Dan! Albert. Foxx. Cilla, Fu. Koni
[2018/10/27 11:00] albertlr Landar: You know that The Pirates House Restaurant here in Savannah was the setting for Treasure Island
[2018/10/27 11:00] Jim Bean: Hello
[2018/10/27 11:00] Snoots Dwagon: :D
[2018/10/27 11:00] Snoots Dwagon: Hi Jim!
[2018/10/27 11:00] Koni Lanzius: oh cool!
[2018/10/27 11:00] Koni Lanzius: hey jim, Romulin
[2018/10/27 11:00] Snoots Dwagon: Today's subject for discussion: why are there not more cookie dispensers on OSgrid?
[2018/10/27 11:00] Koni Lanzius: heheheh
[2018/10/27 11:00] albertlr Landar: When they did rennovations to it, they found a tunnel from the old restaurant to the bluffs, where they would kidnap sailors.
[2018/10/27 11:01] Snoots Dwagon: wows
[2018/10/27 11:01] Romulun Rockett: Hello all :)
[2018/10/27 11:01] Koni Lanzius: holy moly
[2018/10/27 11:01] Snoots Dwagon: Hi da Romulun!
[2018/10/27 11:01] DJ Higher is Online
[2018/10/27 11:01] Arielle Popstar is Online
[2018/10/27 11:01] Snoots Dwagon looks at Foxx and thinks I has idea where da wierd ideas come from.
[2018/10/27 11:01] albertlr Landar: Black Beard was a frequent visitor to our coasts, one of the Island around here is named for him.
[2018/10/27 11:01] TIGGS Beaumont: Hello all :-)
[2018/10/27 11:01] Koni Lanzius: heheh
[2018/10/27 11:01] Snoots Dwagon: Hi da Tiggs!
[2018/10/27 11:01] Koni Lanzius: interesting!
[2018/10/27 11:02] Koni Lanzius: hey tiggs, arielle
[2018/10/27 11:02] Snoots Dwagon: <---- is in disguise today
[2018/10/27 11:02] Arielle Popstar: Hi Koni\
[2018/10/27 11:02] albertlr Landar: Hi Tiggs and arielle
[2018/10/27 11:02] Arielle Popstar: Hi Tiggs
[2018/10/27 11:02] cilla teebrook: howdy ... now waiting for my toast to pop
[2018/10/27 11:02] TIGGS Beaumont: *waves *just hangin out on a slow connection
[2018/10/27 11:02] Snoots Dwagon: MMM toast
[2018/10/27 11:02] Arielle Popstar: Hi Albertr
[2018/10/27 11:03] Snoots Dwagon: Hey Koni, you know what you have if a rabbit jumps on your nose?
[2018/10/27 11:03] Koni Lanzius: wut?
[2018/10/27 11:04] Snoots Dwagon: Nose hare
[2018/10/27 11:04] albertlr Landar: I hope everyone is finding they can rezz here quicker and more complete today.
[2018/10/27 11:04] TIGGS Beaumont: LOL thi is fun
[2018/10/27 11:04] Koni Lanzius: AHAHAHAHAHA!!!
[2018/10/27 11:04] Snoots Dwagon: Yeah Albert, rezzed very quickly
[2018/10/27 11:04] Arielle Popstar: i had a tiggs on my nose :)\\
[2018/10/27 11:04] TIGGS Beaumont: NOT
[2018/10/27 11:04] Fu Barr: Hey Ari :)
[2018/10/27 11:04] Snoots Dwagon: mwahahahahahaha...
[2018/10/27 11:04] Koni Lanzius: hehe
[2018/10/27 11:04] Fu Barr: TIGGS :)
[2018/10/27 11:04] Snoots Dwagon: Did. I saw
[2018/10/27 11:04] Fu Barr: Mika :)
[2018/10/27 11:04] albertlr Landar: Well Dan just released a new version of opensim for OSgrid.
[2018/10/27 11:04] Fu Barr: Jim :)
[2018/10/27 11:04] Snoots Dwagon: Oh? When?
[2018/10/27 11:04] TIGGS Beaumont: she is all over
[2018/10/27 11:04] Jim Bean: Hi Fu
[2018/10/27 11:04] Koni Lanzius: ~**YAY!!!!**~
[2018/10/27 11:04] albertlr Landar: Just an hour a go.
[2018/10/27 11:05] Fu Barr: Romulun :)
[2018/10/27 11:05] Snoots Dwagon: Oh so it's available for download?
[2018/10/27 11:05] cilla teebrook: Foxxx must be wearing the right perfume
[2018/10/27 11:05] TIGGS Beaumont: hehe
[2018/10/27 11:05] Koni Lanzius: Brilliant, thanks Dan!
[2018/10/27 11:05] Foxx Bode: axe....
[2018/10/27 11:05] Foxx Bode: *-* HeHeHehe*-*
[2018/10/27 11:05] cilla teebrook: hehe you are fast
[2018/10/27 11:05] albertlr Landar: I've already got my regions updated, and they all seem to load faster, and no problems with things showing up.
[2018/10/27 11:05] Romulun Rockett: FU Barr :)
[2018/10/27 11:05] Koni Lanzius: very nice
[2018/10/27 11:05] Snoots Dwagon: Albert is it available for download?
[2018/10/27 11:05] albertlr Landar: yes
[2018/10/27 11:05] cilla teebrook: toast up brb
[2018/10/27 11:05] Snoots Dwagon: Can we just copy and re-insert our .ini files?
[2018/10/27 11:05] albertlr Landar: says 27th on it.
[2018/10/27 11:05] TIGGS Beaumont: well okay then
[2018/10/27 11:06] Azi Az is Offline
[2018/10/27 11:06] albertlr Landar: I had to move my Singularity over to my other monitor, seems my AMD graphics is messing up the other monitor every few minutes
[2018/10/27 11:06] Arielle Popstar: maybe we could start meeting at another plaza as this one is always challenged
[2018/10/27 11:06] Romulun Rockett: yes that's SSSOOO much easyer than messing around with oar files for each sim
[2018/10/27 11:07] TIGGS Beaumont: I think perhaps it is I who is challenged *grin
[2018/10/27 11:07] Snoots Dwagon: The one online says the 25th
[2018/10/27 11:07] albertlr Landar: But just back up your ini files, and your regions to oars. Then copy new bin over, and copy ini files into new bin. and start them up.
[2018/10/27 11:07] Snoots Dwagon: Do you have a link to the 27th?
[2018/10/27 11:07] Azi Az is Online
[2018/10/27 11:07] Arielle Popstar: no, there was some slowness for me too in comparison to other plaza's
[2018/10/27 11:08] albertlr Landar: https://www.osgrid.org/download.php
[2018/10/27 11:08] albertlr Landar: there you go
[2018/10/27 11:08] Koni Lanzius: thanks Albirtir
[2018/10/27 11:08] Romulun Rockett: The easyest way I've found in the past is to 7zip my entire set up into a backup file, then copy the new ini files over th eold
[2018/10/27 11:08] albertlr Landar: I understand that UBit had removed another Throttle, and did some work on the Xengine?
[2018/10/27 11:08] albertlr Landar: Or Yengine?
[2018/10/27 11:09] Snoots Dwagon: Albert, I visiting that page but here is what I see:
[2018/10/27 11:09] Snoots Dwagon: Download: OSgrid OpenSimulator 0.9.1.dev.a1d132d - [zip] [37.5mb] 10-25-2018
[2018/10/27 11:09] albertlr Landar: thats it.
[2018/10/27 11:09] Snoots Dwagon: Okays
[2018/10/27 11:09] albertlr Landar: it will say 27th when you down load it.
[2018/10/27 11:09] Arielle Popstar: also did some work so that doubleclicking inventory item strips off worn clothing :)\
[2018/10/27 11:09] Snoots Dwagon: KK ty
[2018/10/27 11:10] Snoots Dwagon: mwahahahahahaha...
[2018/10/27 11:10] albertlr Landar: and do we want that?
[2018/10/27 11:10] Arielle Popstar: total mystery of why that change\
[2018/10/27 11:10] Arielle Popstar: nope
[2018/10/27 11:10] TIGGS Beaumont: Thank you Arielle, I was going to ask Ubit about that
[2018/10/27 11:10] Snoots Dwagon: Yeah, I don't wanna lose my hat and tie. :D
[2018/10/27 11:10] Arielle Popstar: by definition it is a hack
[2018/10/27 11:10] cilla teebrook: i dragged a huge folder of folders onto me
[2018/10/27 11:11] albertlr Landar: I was having some problems I notice in double clicking in the inventory to add clothing.
[2018/10/27 11:11] Arielle Popstar: as it changes the behaviour of viewer design\
[2018/10/27 11:11] TIGGS Beaumont: cilla, what did that do?
[2018/10/27 11:11] Snoots Dwagon: Well double clicking doesn't actually ADD clothing if I'm right. I believe it WEARS clothing
[2018/10/27 11:11] albertlr Landar: well need to file a mantis or add to it if already there.
[2018/10/27 11:11] albertlr Landar: well that is what I wanted was to wear.
[2018/10/27 11:12] albertlr Landar: Had to click funtion to get it to wear.
[2018/10/27 11:12] cilla teebrook: filled my screen with HUDS and clothes kept being added n removed .. I logged off
[2018/10/27 11:12] Arielle Popstar: it was an intentional change from my understanding
[2018/10/27 11:12] Snoots Dwagon: I notice Tiggs wearing a halo. She prolly STOLE it from angel.
[2018/10/27 11:12] Snoots Dwagon: :D
[2018/10/27 11:12] Arielle Popstar: Mayber Dan knows more\
[2018/10/27 11:12] albertlr Landar: its beyond me.
[2018/10/27 11:12] TIGGS Beaumont: Snoots want me to don the red one shorty?
[2018/10/27 11:12] TIGGS Beaumont: heh
[2018/10/27 11:12] Fu Barr: @snoots.... not only did she steal it... she prolly got the angel drunk first, and then stole it...
[2018/10/27 11:12] Snoots Dwagon: :D
[2018/10/27 11:12] Koni Lanzius: hehe
[2018/10/27 11:12] Snoots Dwagon: mwahahahahahaha...
[2018/10/27 11:13] Koni Lanzius: hahahaha
[2018/10/27 11:13] TIGGS Beaumont: hehe good boibon
[2018/10/27 11:13] Romulun Rockett: LOL :)
[2018/10/27 11:13] albertlr Landar: I see where a lot of the G+ goups have moved to WEME now.
[2018/10/27 11:13] Snoots Dwagon: yeah
[2018/10/27 11:13] Arielle Popstar: seems\
[2018/10/27 11:13] TIGGS Beaumont: what is WEME?
[2018/10/27 11:13] Koni Lanzius: yea the Elf Clan did
[2018/10/27 11:13] Koni Lanzius: its a nice little social site
[2018/10/27 11:13] Arielle Popstar: doubt they get anywhere near the membership of the old groups though\
[2018/10/27 11:13] Snoots Dwagon: Although to tell the truth, I'm not sure it's necessary
[2018/10/27 11:13] albertlr Landar: A similar set up to Google G+ goups
[2018/10/27 11:13] Snoots Dwagon: Next August is a long way off and a lot can happen between now and then
[2018/10/27 11:14] Snoots Dwagon: For all we know G+ might not shut down after all
[2018/10/27 11:14] Fu Barr: MeWe
[2018/10/27 11:14] Arielle Popstar: i would rather the focus was on fixing HG groups and Friends
[2018/10/27 11:14] Snoots Dwagon: I've seen that happen before
[2018/10/27 11:14] albertlr Landar: Well it also looked like google was saying they were removing the indinvidual groups.
[2018/10/27 11:14] albertlr Landar: Not necessarily organizations.
[2018/10/27 11:14] Arielle Popstar: what need for an external social site when this is already a social world?
[2018/10/27 11:14] Snoots Dwagon: I like MeWe a lot-- but it's not set up on a good "article" basis. It's more like a whole buncha comments thrown togetehr
[2018/10/27 11:15] Snoots Dwagon: Arielle, need for a social site is for announcements and news articles
[2018/10/27 11:15] Snoots Dwagon: Even Elf Clan has a news site
[2018/10/27 11:15] Arielle Popstar: \thats what groups were for
[2018/10/27 11:15] Fu Barr: I'm with Hyacinth wrt to more 'cororate' Social Media platforms etc. I dont like them much.
[2018/10/27 11:15] Snoots Dwagon: Groups have limitations
[2018/10/27 11:15] Fu Barr: *corporate
[2018/10/27 11:15] Azi Az is Offline
[2018/10/27 11:16] Snoots Dwagon: I am not a fan of social media. But I do see the need for easily-readable news
[2018/10/27 11:16] Arielle Popstar: i like Hy's idea of incorporating it into the viewer
[2018/10/27 11:16] Koni Lanzius: yea lots of trolls and adverts
[2018/10/27 11:16] Snoots Dwagon: For example, the recent code release. Everyone on OSgrid should be made aware of that
[2018/10/27 11:16] albertlr Landar: well it was posted on Twitter.
[2018/10/27 11:16] Snoots Dwagon: Right on SPLASH PAGE, center stage. :D
[2018/10/27 11:16] Snoots Dwagon: Twitter bleh
[2018/10/27 11:16] cilla teebrook: who does twitter?
[2018/10/27 11:16] cilla teebrook: trump
[2018/10/27 11:16] Koni Lanzius: hehe
[2018/10/27 11:16] Arielle Popstar: not me
[2018/10/27 11:16] Azi Az is Online
[2018/10/27 11:17] albertlr Landar: And Dan sent a message on The Town Hall group with a link.
[2018/10/27 11:17] Snoots Dwagon snickers...
[2018/10/27 11:17] Koni Lanzius: funny
[2018/10/27 11:17] Snoots Dwagon: Thing is, the code release is major. So maybe should be a major announcement right in middle of splash page where everyone can see and update
[2018/10/27 11:17] Romulun Rockett: I think the town hall group, would be a good way to diceminate official OsGrid info to people.
[2018/10/27 11:17] Snoots Dwagon: If someone doesn't belong to Town Hall or doesn't use Twitter...
[2018/10/27 11:17] cilla teebrook: i don't want to have to join a bunch of groups or websites.. don't want to even bother with facebook
[2018/10/27 11:18] Jim Bean: should be always good to drive traffic to the osgrid website iitself to let people know what goes on here_
[2018/10/27 11:18] Snoots Dwagon: I agree. I just want a website I can go to and read what's up. :D
[2018/10/27 11:18] Arielle Popstar: ((who you kidding with the halo Tiggs? :)))
[2018/10/27 11:18] TIGGS Beaumont: I thought I read on the login also a message from Dan with a link to the download
[2018/10/27 11:18] albertlr Landar: https://twitter.com/osgrid/status/1056206601953124356
[2018/10/27 11:18] albertlr Landar: we encourge everyone to join the Town Hall and have a join sign over by the auditorium
[2018/10/27 11:18] Snoots Dwagon: I thought that was to an older version
[2018/10/27 11:19] TIGGS Beaumont: Arielle everyone?
[2018/10/27 11:19] Koni Lanzius: ok
[2018/10/27 11:19] albertlr Landar: no new one
[2018/10/27 11:19] Romulun Rockett: But news has to be on the website too, in case OsGrid is down and you want to tell people about it, what's wrong, when it'll be back up etc, etc.
[2018/10/27 11:19] Snoots Dwagon: Well, I would if group search thing worked. :D
[2018/10/27 11:19] Arielle Popstar: you are an angel :)\
[2018/10/27 11:19] Arielle Popstar: :)
[2018/10/27 11:19] Arielle Popstar: typo on as smilie
[2018/10/27 11:19] Arielle Popstar: my bad
[2018/10/27 11:19] Snoots Dwagon: Would someone please invite me to Town Hall? group search not working
[2018/10/27 11:19] Snoots Dwagon: tyty
[2018/10/27 11:20] Arielle Popstar: me too i guess
[2018/10/27 11:20] TIGGS Beaumont: *grins Arielle
[2018/10/27 11:20] Foxx Bode: twitter is embedded in both home and splash page for everyone to see. Only need to read it....
[2018/10/27 11:21] Snoots Dwagon: I refuse to read
[2018/10/27 11:21] Koni Lanzius: pfft
[2018/10/27 11:21] Snoots Dwagon: mwahahahahahaha...
[2018/10/27 11:21] Koni Lanzius: behave, Snootzie
[2018/10/27 11:21] TIGGS Beaumont: but what if you don't tweet
[2018/10/27 11:21] Snoots Dwagon waiting for Town Hall invite.... plays Jeopardy music while crickets chirp...
[2018/10/27 11:22] Lobo Estepario is Offline
[2018/10/27 11:22] Snoots Dwagon: Thank you Albert. :D
[2018/10/27 11:22] Romulun Rockett: maybe we should have an official youtube channel?
[2018/10/27 11:22] Arielle Popstar: thats an idea
[2018/10/27 11:22] Koni Lanzius: i think we do
[2018/10/27 11:22] Arielle Popstar: oh
[2018/10/27 11:22] George Equus is Online
[2018/10/27 11:22] Koni Lanzius: Foxx dont we have one?
[2018/10/27 11:22] Romulun Rockett: Everyone uses youtube (well eveyone I know anyway)
[2018/10/27 11:22] albertlr Landar: But need to use it more and then promote it.
[2018/10/27 11:23] Koni Lanzius: yea
[2018/10/27 11:23] Snoots Dwagon: I just watched Lady Gaga last night and am now sworn off YouTube
[2018/10/27 11:23] Arielle Popstar: is it advertised in lbsa?\
[2018/10/27 11:23] albertlr Landar: And we can put links to videos on forums and wiit.
[2018/10/27 11:23] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[2018/10/27 11:23] albertlr Landar: wiki.
[2018/10/27 11:23] Fu Barr: how is youtube relevant for a text posting of 3 lines?
[2018/10/27 11:23] cilla teebrook: lol
[2018/10/27 11:23] Koni Lanzius: neato
[2018/10/27 11:23] Arielle Popstar: could include a turorial and explanation of changes
[2018/10/27 11:23] albertlr Landar: Not necessarily for notices, but more entended info.
[2018/10/27 11:23] cilla teebrook: i want it to read to me
[2018/10/27 11:24] Snoots Dwagon: You know, the neat thing about G+ is that we could go there from our browser, instant access, and read the latest articles, every day.
[2018/10/27 11:24] Snoots Dwagon: That's what I'd still like to see
[2018/10/27 11:24] Arielle Popstar: did you?\
[2018/10/27 11:24] Snoots Dwagon: It was very informative
[2018/10/27 11:24] Fu Barr: sort of tangential to this eternal websites and social media issue... I was wondering who 'owns' and manages www.opensimulator.org?
[2018/10/27 11:24] Snoots Dwagon: yesh, I visited G+ all the time
[2018/10/27 11:24] TIGGS Beaumont: I thought opensim.com had all the avenues for notices/discussions/information?
[2018/10/27 11:24] Koni Lanzius: PAELA! huggies!
[2018/10/27 11:24] paela argus: hi
[2018/10/27 11:24] Snoots Dwagon: Hi da Paela. :D
[2018/10/27 11:24] Arielle Popstar: G+ has really dropped in past year or so\
[2018/10/27 11:24] Romulun Rockett: yes a decent youtube tutorial would be GOOD, for all aspects of OsGrid, especially people who are just getting started setting up their first sim etc
[2018/10/27 11:25] Arielle Popstar: same 15-20 people posting
[2018/10/27 11:25] TIGGS Beaumont: Paela HUGzs
[2018/10/27 11:25] Foxx Bode: -*- HeLlO-*-
[2018/10/27 11:25] Bloody Chainsaw *Prize* whispers: Say hello to the twenty-first century!
[2018/10/27 11:25] Jim Bean: Hello
[2018/10/27 11:25] Snoots Dwagon: Hi da George
[2018/10/27 11:25] albertlr Landar: Hello George
[2018/10/27 11:25] George Equus: Hi everyone
[2018/10/27 11:25] Jim Bean: HI
[2018/10/27 11:25] Arielle Popstar: Hi George\
[2018/10/27 11:25] George Equus: sorry I'm so late
[2018/10/27 11:26] Romulun Rockett: Hello George :)
[2018/10/27 11:26] Koni Lanzius: hey George
[2018/10/27 11:26] TIGGS Beaumont: George hey there hat
[2018/10/27 11:26] Arielle Popstar: its fashionable
[2018/10/27 11:26] Snoots Dwagon: Is okay George. We were just discussing how to tweet
[2018/10/27 11:26] albertlr Landar: Not much going on, except Dan has posted a new OSgrid update.
[2018/10/27 11:26] cilla teebrook: dan is that a costumn or your new avatar?
[2018/10/27 11:26] Snoots Dwagon likes Dan's new look
[2018/10/27 11:26] TIGGS Beaumont: I still have the question
[2018/10/27 11:26] TIGGS Beaumont: : I thought opensim.com had all the avenues for notices/discussions/information?
[2018/10/27 11:27] albertlr Landar: Paela going to cut some Fire wood.
[2018/10/27 11:27] cilla teebrook: important ppl want to know
[2018/10/27 11:27] Arielle Popstar: opensim.org
[2018/10/27 11:27] Koni Lanzius: hehe
[2018/10/27 11:27] paela argus: =)
[2018/10/27 11:27] albertlr Landar: hopefully
[2018/10/27 11:27] Snoots Dwagon: The problem with Opensim.org Tiggs, is that it isn't OSgrid
[2018/10/27 11:27] Snoots Dwagon: And is there a place where anyone can post valid ifno?
[2018/10/27 11:27] Snoots Dwagon: info
[2018/10/27 11:28] albertlr Landar: yea, forums
[2018/10/27 11:28] Arielle Popstar: osgrid forums
[2018/10/27 11:28] albertlr Landar: The Chat from this meeting is posted there every week.
[2018/10/27 11:28] albertlr Landar: People share scripts in it all the time.
[2018/10/27 11:29] Snoots Dwagon: What is the address of that? Because I'm at Opensim.org and it looks very sparce and undeveloped
[2018/10/27 11:29] Snoots Dwagon: Is that the right addy?
[2018/10/27 11:29] albertlr Landar: https://forums.osgrid.org/
[2018/10/27 11:29] Snoots Dwagon: Thanks Albert
[2018/10/27 11:29] cilla teebrook: I did just take a shower... damn I feel lonely
[2018/10/27 11:29] albertlr Landar: Its on the OSgrid website
[2018/10/27 11:30] Fu Barr: opensim.org is a bs website.
[2018/10/27 11:30] Fu Barr: the correct url is www.opensimulator.org
[2018/10/27 11:30] Koni Lanzius: good to know
[2018/10/27 11:30] Snoots Dwagon: Thanks Fu
[2018/10/27 11:30] albertlr Landar: Also our wiki had several tutotirals on how to do various things on OSGrid, and how to set them up.
[2018/10/27 11:30] TIGGS Beaumont: Cilla sit on someone's lap
[2018/10/27 11:31] albertlr Landar: http://wiki.osgrid.org/index.php/Main_Page
[2018/10/27 11:31] TIGGS Beaumont: *grin
[2018/10/27 11:31] cilla teebrook: sit on my lap
[2018/10/27 11:31] Fu Barr: i think opensimulator.org is run by Diva's university... or something connected to Neb or other old skool VIP's.
[2018/10/27 11:31] cilla teebrook: i remember Nebd
[2018/10/27 11:31] albertlr Landar: its usually updated by the Developers.
[2018/10/27 11:32] Arielle Popstar: its opensim core mostly with help from whoever wishes to update info\\
[2018/10/27 11:32] TIGGS Beaumont: I like the tutorials, have to reread several times but I like knowing I can go back and grab a bit more each time
[2018/10/27 11:32] Arielle Popstar: once registered
[2018/10/27 11:32] Snoots Dwagon: May I make a suggestion on Opensim releases on OSgrid? The name of this release is: RELEASE OSgrid OpenSim v0.9.1.a1d132d .
[2018/10/27 11:32] Snoots Dwagon: a1d132d doesn't mean anything to anyone. But if it were numbered 2018-10-27a... that would have meaning
[2018/10/27 11:33] Arielle Popstar: its tacked on the end isnt it?
[2018/10/27 11:33] Arielle Popstar: the date?\
[2018/10/27 11:33] Snoots Dwagon: I not think so
[2018/10/27 11:33] albertlr Landar: That part of the name comes from git.
[2018/10/27 11:33] Snoots Dwagon: Not that I san see
[2018/10/27 11:33] Fu Barr: what albertlr said
[2018/10/27 11:33] Snoots Dwagon: Ah
[2018/10/27 11:33] Fu Barr: the 'funky' name is actually very discriptive.
[2018/10/27 11:33] Snoots Dwagon: KK
[2018/10/27 11:33] Azi Az is Online
[2018/10/27 11:33] Danger Lytton is Online
[2018/10/27 11:33] albertlr Landar: But the date is also included on the download page.
[2018/10/27 11:33] Arielle Popstar: i see Download: OSgrid OpenSimulator 0.9.1.dev.a1d132d - [zip] [37.5mb] 10-25-2018
[2018/10/27 11:33] Fu Barr: it tells you which git branch or checkin that source comes from
[2018/10/27 11:33] Snoots Dwagon: Okies
[2018/10/27 11:34] Fu Barr: it's the only relevant and truly unique way of referencing the actual features of a release.
[2018/10/27 11:34] Snoots Dwagon: I'm apparently looking at another page. Primary page about halfway down
[2018/10/27 11:34] Fu Barr: because you could release 5 versions on the same day
[2018/10/27 11:34] Snoots Dwagon: Well, 1/4 way down
[2018/10/27 11:34] Koni Lanzius: ahh
[2018/10/27 11:34] albertlr Landar: And when you save it to your hard drive you computer should put what ever the current date is on it too.
[2018/10/27 11:35] Fu Barr: exactly.
[2018/10/27 11:35] Snoots Dwagon: Okies I retract suggestion. I just use it on all my softwares. :D
[2018/10/27 11:35] albertlr Landar: usually if i new release is made it will replace the old one.
[2018/10/27 11:35] Snoots Dwagon: Tiggs crashed?
[2018/10/27 11:35] Fu Barr: but unfortuantely that would mean that we expect people to actually know what they are doing. Which is a mistake. Most people shouldn;t be let near a computing device of any kind.
[2018/10/27 11:35] Arielle Popstar: saw she was typing a long time then poofed
[2018/10/27 11:36] albertlr Landar: Well we got another Halloween Party coming up on October 31st this coming Wednesday.
[2018/10/27 11:36] Koni Lanzius: hehehehe
[2018/10/27 11:36] Koni Lanzius: yay
[2018/10/27 11:36] Arielle Popstar: i blame the programmers who dont make it stupid user friendly
[2018/10/27 11:36] Snoots Dwagon: BRB laundray change. I'll read back when I return so I can cause troubles. :D
[2018/10/27 11:36] Koni Lanzius: rolls eyes
[2018/10/27 11:36] albertlr Landar: ok
[2018/10/27 11:36] Fu Barr: nah - stupid users should educate themselves.
[2018/10/27 11:36] Koni Lanzius: ;)
[2018/10/27 11:36] Snoots Dwagon: Stupid user friendly is GOOD
[2018/10/27 11:36] Arielle Popstar: not everyone is programming literate
[2018/10/27 11:36] Arielle Popstar: like me
[2018/10/27 11:36] Fu Barr: stupid users expect somehow that the most complex information processing machine ever invented will just 'work miracles'
[2018/10/27 11:37] TIGGS Beaumont: okay Is Ubit willing to work on the wear/add fix?
[2018/10/27 11:37] Fu Barr: Stupid user friendly is the root of all Evil.
[2018/10/27 11:37] Arielle Popstar: he did thats why it is the way it is now
[2018/10/27 11:37] Snoots Dwagon: The thing is. MOST users are 'stupid user' class... something that devs seem to easily forget.
[2018/10/27 11:37] TIGGS Beaumont: <----stupid user"
[2018/10/27 11:37] albertlr Landar: he needs constant feedback to the mantis on these things.
[2018/10/27 11:37] cilla teebrook: now i have someone to keep me company
[2018/10/27 11:38] TIGGS Beaumont: albetir okay that makes sense
[2018/10/27 11:38] Koni Lanzius: hi rocky
[2018/10/27 11:38] Arielle Popstar: you get the 130-140 IQ programmers expecting 80-120 IQ users to read their minds
[2018/10/27 11:38] Snoots Dwagon: It's just like the Linden Lab Scripting WIKI. Written by programming techs for programming techs, and heaven help you if you're a newb trying to figure out technobabble.
[2018/10/27 11:38] Mirror Amorasi is Offline
[2018/10/27 11:38] TIGGS Beaumont: cilla HUGzs we will march, storm the grid
[2018/10/27 11:38] paela argus is Offline
[2018/10/27 11:38] Snoots Dwagon: LOL Tiggs
[2018/10/27 11:38] TIGGS Beaumont: But, I have found, no matter how confused i get, how shakey I get, how nervous I get on these machines, all I have to do is ask
[2018/10/27 11:39] Snoots Dwagon: FREE AT LAST!
[2018/10/27 11:39] cilla teebrook: news............. time change very very soon
[2018/10/27 11:39] TIGGS Beaumont: My questions may seem stupid to tech savvies
[2018/10/27 11:39] TIGGS Beaumont: but they help me understand
[2018/10/27 11:39] TIGGS Beaumont: once it all gets through my thick skull
[2018/10/27 11:39] Snoots Dwagon: I worked as a computer specialist for 30 years, and constantly found devs and techs forgot how to speak plain English to their clients. ;D
[2018/10/27 11:40] albertlr Landar: Doctors tend to do the same thing.
[2018/10/27 11:40] Snoots Dwagon: I made quite a bit of $$$ translating. mwahahahahaa
[2018/10/27 11:40] Fu Barr: I've worked as a computer specialist for 30 years too.
[2018/10/27 11:40] Arielle Popstar: Touchy question....Does Osgrid have a policy and procedure for handeling issues with Administrators in regards to Bannings, deletions and other related problems?
[2018/10/27 11:40] albertlr Landar: Yes, Talk with Dan
[2018/10/27 11:40] Jim Bean: yes, agrees
[2018/10/27 11:40] Fu Barr: and in the beginning i thought we have to make things user friendly.
[2018/10/27 11:40] Snoots Dwagon: BRB
[2018/10/27 11:40] Fu Barr: but now i know better.
[2018/10/27 11:41] Fu Barr: stupid users should not be let near computers.
[2018/10/27 11:41] albertlr Landar: The buck stops with dan.
[2018/10/27 11:41] cilla teebrook: hmmmm
[2018/10/27 11:41] Arielle Popstar: well he is here/....
[2018/10/27 11:41] TIGGS Beaumont: but Fu they let me buy a beast
[2018/10/27 11:41] albertlr Landar: yea.
[2018/10/27 11:41] Arielle Popstar: not
[2018/10/27 11:41] Arielle Popstar: :)
[2018/10/27 11:41] Fu Barr: btw snoots - thank god that the LSL wiki is not written for noobs.
[2018/10/27 11:42] Romulun Rockett: the biggest barrior I can see to OsGrid's expansion is the technical knowledge / competence required to set up a sim. If we can get a server installation that just installs like another aplication and dosn't require you to to weard things like open ports or get uuid's etc then it will ECPLODE.
[2018/10/27 11:42] Arielle Popstar: thats why we have FU to do tutorials
[2018/10/27 11:42] Fu Barr: i'm just sick and tired of everything being dumbed down.
[2018/10/27 11:42] albertlr Landar: You should see his email address listed on the Wiki page for the Board of Directors
[2018/10/27 11:42] albertlr Landar: http://wiki.osgrid.org/index.php/Board
[2018/10/27 11:42] LaNani Sundara is Online
[2018/10/27 11:42] Fu Barr: Romulun - so sorry to burst your bubble... but some things just are complicated.
[2018/10/27 11:42] Romulun Rockett: I meant explode, sorry!
[2018/10/27 11:43] Arielle Popstar: how many years you been doing LSL?
[2018/10/27 11:43] Fu Barr: and you can't simply them because a home simulator setup has to deal with many machines and may settings and a router and what ever...
[2018/10/27 11:43] Fu Barr: so there simply is no way to 'one-click-insteerify the install.
[2018/10/27 11:43] Jim Bean: I also work in the IT field, is hard t do good so called X engineering, help user people to coop with machines is an hard task
[2018/10/27 11:43] Fu Barr: you just have to learn and know stuff
[2018/10/27 11:43] Arielle Popstar: Loopback is the only real issue FU
[2018/10/27 11:44] Fu Barr: nope
[2018/10/27 11:44] Arielle Popstar: most other games out there have that sorted
[2018/10/27 11:44] Romulun Rockett: yes and some people will figure it out but many will just give up and go away and thay are potential users.
[2018/10/27 11:44] albertlr Landar: And Foxx is our resident expert on net and loop back
[2018/10/27 11:44] Fu Barr: there's punching holes though your firewall and setting up DMZ if you want and a whole host of stuff that relate to networking.
[2018/10/27 11:44] Koni Lanzius: yup
[2018/10/27 11:44] Fu Barr: most users cant find their arses even after they've had their morning coffee....
[2018/10/27 11:44] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[2018/10/27 11:45] Arielle Popstar: for the first time home user, loopback is the biggest issue, especially with osgrid releases
[2018/10/27 11:45] TIGGS Beaumont: I can SO!!!
[2018/10/27 11:45] Koni Lanzius: hahah
[2018/10/27 11:45] Wizard Atazoth is Online
[2018/10/27 11:45] cilla teebrook: kicks Fu
[2018/10/27 11:45] Snoots Dwagon: Fu Barr... that attitude is what alienates people from grids and makes them think techs are arrogant. Looking down your nose at people because they are not as computer literate as you? Pfffffft
[2018/10/27 11:45] albertlr Landar: well if anyone wants to get a AT&T Fiber Optics modem I set nime up with Foxx's help and I finally got it working on OSGrid, and I can give advice to them on it.
[2018/10/27 11:45] Arielle Popstar: yes snoots
[2018/10/27 11:46] Fu Barr: snoots - i;m all for teaching and educating.
[2018/10/27 11:46] Arielle Popstar: prima donnas
[2018/10/27 11:46] Snoots Dwagon: Reality of life: You will never lose a customer by being user friendly. You WILL lose customers by talking over their heads.
[2018/10/27 11:46] TIGGS Beaumont: OH Snoots, I do not think Fu looks down his nose at usI think he forces us, at times, to learn what we need to from the ground up
[2018/10/27 11:46] Fu Barr: if you knew me well enough you'd never say that i dont want to help the newbie and the person who doesn;t know stuff.
[2018/10/27 11:46] TIGGS Beaumont: may be an upopular method for us at times but we do lern slowly
[2018/10/27 11:46] Snoots Dwagon: Well, I agree. I've never known Fu to be arrogant. He's always answered questions simply and to the point.
[2018/10/27 11:46] Fu Barr: my point is that saying 'user friendly' isn;t click and cdrool. Often user friendly means educating the user.
[2018/10/27 11:46] dan banner: unfortunately there is a learning curve, nat loopback is needed for sims behind nat
[2018/10/27 11:47] Arielle Popstar: Outworldz app does make it simpler
[2018/10/27 11:47] Arielle Popstar: Adam Frisby also had a similar thing years ago\
[2018/10/27 11:48] Arielle Popstar: there have been others too over the years with various amounts of success
[2018/10/27 11:48] Snoots Dwagon: Here's my little dwagony thought on that: if one had to jump through the hoops to install Minecraft that we have to jump through to install Opensim, Minecraft would have crashed and burned. ; )
[2018/10/27 11:48] Arielle Popstar: but always came back to the loopback
[2018/10/27 11:48] dan banner: if there was the infrastructure to "register" connections of some sorts like some other games do its possible that could be worked around but there really isnt any push for that as most of the developers and interested parties are not using nat
[2018/10/27 11:48] Snoots Dwagon: Exactly Dan
[2018/10/27 11:48] Fu Barr: but Opensim is MORE COMPLICATED than Minecraft to setup
[2018/10/27 11:48] albertlr Landar: it does not help when some of the modem and router folks don't properly support loop back also.
[2018/10/27 11:49] Fu Barr: Well. I made my point i dont want to fill the chat with more of the same. :)
[2018/10/27 11:49] Arielle Popstar: the simplest solution at this point is to recommend one or 2 known working loopback routers
[2018/10/27 11:49] Snoots Dwagon: Yes Fu, but Opensim isn't more difficult to set up than other network-based software... and that software is turn-key installation. I have to agree: Opensim needs to be easier to install. I don't say that as a newb, but as a person who has written software all my life.
[2018/10/27 11:49] Snoots Dwagon: Written user interfaces, installed networks, you name it.
[2018/10/27 11:49] Arielle Popstar: something in the $50-765 dollar range
[2018/10/27 11:49] Snoots Dwagon: There is user friendly... and there isn't. ;D
[2018/10/27 11:50] Snoots Dwagon: There's turn-key, and there's pain-in-the-butt.
[2018/10/27 11:50] albertlr Landar: actaully if there is a opensource app that would help new users to set it up, it would be nice to have it as a download on the website.
[2018/10/27 11:50] Jim Bean: maybe is enough to add some possible cases descriptions and a diagram visually showing what it should be to the instructions to do NAT and the like
[2018/10/27 11:50] cilla teebrook: post a list of ppl who are willing to help
[2018/10/27 11:50] Fu Barr: Snoots - so have I. I even have the MA in User Interface Design to give it the pointless rubber stamp.
[2018/10/27 11:50] Foxx Bode: there is a region generator
[2018/10/27 11:50] Arielle Popstar: there is Albertr with Outworldz. Just have to ask Fred to allow it to be configured for connection to grid
[2018/10/27 11:50] Foxx Bode: https://www.osgrid.org/generator_regions.php
[2018/10/27 11:51] Snoots Dwagon: I agree there are different viewpoints on software integration-- but I also know the stuff that does well in mainstream is the software that's easy to use. So... is OSgrid trying to appeal to techs... or to the mainstream audience? That's a question I'm curious about.
[2018/10/27 11:51] Arielle Popstar: weho knew
[2018/10/27 11:51] Arielle Popstar: who even
[2018/10/27 11:51] Fu Barr: opensim isn;t trying to appeal to anybody
[2018/10/27 11:52] TIGGS Beaumont: okay a question if I may?
[2018/10/27 11:52] Fu Barr: opensim is just trying to putout a piece of VW software.
[2018/10/27 11:52] TIGGS Beaumont: never mind answered
[2018/10/27 11:52] albertlr Landar: ok then I will ask him about that, do you have an email address for Ferd.
[2018/10/27 11:52] Fu Barr: if you want to package it in way X - please take the sources package and distribute.
[2018/10/27 11:53] Arielle Popstar: https://www.outworldz.com/Outworldz_installer/
[2018/10/27 11:53] albertlr Landar: ok thanks will see what I can do.
[2018/10/27 11:54] dan banner: snoots: the users in the grid can get a simulator with various methods, theres hosters that will run the sims for you $7-$20 per region if a user is unable to run one
[2018/10/27 11:54] Koni Lanzius: best deal in the verse
[2018/10/27 11:54] LaNani Sundara is Offline
[2018/10/27 11:54] Snoots Dwagon: That is true
[2018/10/27 11:54] Arielle Popstar: lots not willing to put out that money till they have had a chance to try it
[2018/10/27 11:55] Snoots Dwagon: Well, the advantage of a $7 region is that's a pretty cheap way to try it. :D
[2018/10/27 11:55] Snoots Dwagon: If ya don't like it, cancel it
[2018/10/27 11:55] Koni Lanzius: yup
[2018/10/27 11:55] Arielle Popstar: and since a 50 dollar router is the most they would need, no reason to rent
[2018/10/27 11:55] Snoots Dwagon: yup yup yup
[2018/10/27 11:56] Arielle Popstar: yes but it is controlled by someone else
[2018/10/27 11:56] Snoots Dwagon: But Dan is right ,a cheap monthly fee eliminates a lotta headaches
[2018/10/27 11:56] Snoots Dwagon: But not nearly as much fun as self-hosting. :D
[2018/10/27 11:56] Koni Lanzius: :)
[2018/10/27 11:56] Foxx Bode: how about, 5 Mbit up, or 100 at some host :)
[2018/10/27 11:56] Arielle Popstar: no, just different sort of headache :)\
[2018/10/27 11:56] Fu Barr: 'fun as self-hosting'
[2018/10/27 11:56] Snoots Dwagon: I learned a LOT about what goes on behind the scenes by self-hosting
[2018/10/27 11:56] Snoots Dwagon: Such as why teleports weren't working
[2018/10/27 11:56] TIGGS Beaumont: And, is that not the premise of OSG? To encourage and assist people who otherwise could not afford possibly high $$ sims?
[2018/10/27 11:57] Arielle Popstar: a hoster who forgot to backuip or configures differently from what you want etc etc\
[2018/10/27 11:57] Koni Lanzius: it really is, Tiggs
[2018/10/27 11:57] TIGGS Beaumont: I mean a free HUB to enter the world of your choice, or create your own
[2018/10/27 11:57] Fu Barr: snoots - nobody but a geek and pseudo-geek would consider doing anything maintenance related on a computer as fun
[2018/10/27 11:57] Snoots Dwagon: Agrees with Tiggs & Koni
[2018/10/27 11:57] Fu Barr: normal users dont want to be confronted with ANY maintenance.
[2018/10/27 11:57] Snoots Dwagon: mwahahahahahaha...
[2018/10/27 11:57] Fu Barr: even installers are too complicated for them.
[2018/10/27 11:57] Snoots Dwagon: <-- -guess is geek. I enjoys self-hosting
[2018/10/27 11:57] Fu Barr: They just want their infopliance and be done with it.
[2018/10/27 11:57] Danger Lytton is Offline
[2018/10/27 11:58] Snoots Dwagon: Seriously though, I was really frustrated with the TP problems of OSgrid... until I self-hosted, found out EXACTLY why the TPs were failing, and passed that info on.
[2018/10/27 11:58] cilla teebrook: tell me
[2018/10/27 11:58] TIGGS Beaumont: Fu, I consider you one of my mentors, but I do have to *grins here, disagree abit with you
[2018/10/27 11:58] Arielle Popstar: yes it is nice to see the connsole
[2018/10/27 11:58] Snoots Dwagon: If I hadn't self-hosted, I would have never seen WHY the TPs were failing. I'd have just been frustrated they were
[2018/10/27 11:58] cilla teebrook: or is it a secret
[2018/10/27 11:58] Danger Lytton is Online
[2018/10/27 11:59] Snoots Dwagon: Not a secret Cillia. Simple explanation: failing handoff routines
[2018/10/27 11:59] TIGGS Beaumont: I am learning (very slowly) how to handle a region, and I am also being taught how to handle hosting land
[2018/10/27 11:59] cilla teebrook: ahh
[2018/10/27 11:59] Snoots Dwagon: The sending server was dropping the avatar before the receiving computer verified it received it
[2018/10/27 11:59] TIGGS Beaumont: while learning so much about this grid as well
[2018/10/27 11:59] Fu Barr: and TIGGS - you just proved my point.
[2018/10/27 11:59] TIGGS Beaumont: I a computer dunce too heh but then you know that *grin
[2018/10/27 11:59] Snoots Dwagon: The sending comptuer was just taking it for granted the handoff went well... without any verification that it did
[2018/10/27 11:59] Fu Barr: sometimes the most User Friendly thing is to teach.
[2018/10/27 11:59] cilla teebrook: ty
[2018/10/27 11:59] TIGGS Beaumont: how so?
[2018/10/27 11:59] Koni Lanzius: agreed
[2018/10/27 12:00] albertlr Landar: and how did you solve the problem Snoots?
[2018/10/27 12:00] TIGGS Beaumont: but, you all actually do do that
[2018/10/27 12:00] Fu Barr: snoots - you do realise that a 'normal' computer user wouldn;t even be able to make head or tails of the console messages you're talking aout
[2018/10/27 12:00] Snoots Dwagon: I agree with Fu Barr on that. Teaching is good... if the student wants to learn.
[2018/10/27 12:00] TIGGS Beaumont: you tech, by example, by answering our foolish and redundant questions
[2018/10/27 12:00] Fu Barr: they woudl even understand the notino of a console
[2018/10/27 12:00] TIGGS Beaumont: in s many ways
[2018/10/27 12:00] Snoots Dwagon: But sometimes people just want the car to start and get down the road.
[2018/10/27 12:00] Arielle Popstar: i didnt when i started Fu\
[2018/10/27 12:00] Snoots Dwagon: They don't necessarily care to become a mechanic
[2018/10/27 12:00] Koni Lanzius: then they can rent, methinks
[2018/10/27 12:00] cilla teebrook: I just understood him
[2018/10/27 12:00] Fu Barr: and then you can have mutiliple levels of indirectino shell and screen and opensim console.... it's UTTERLY bevwildering
[2018/10/27 12:01] Arielle Popstar: at firsdt
[2018/10/27 12:01] Wizard Atazoth is Offline
[2018/10/27 12:01] Arielle Popstar: \first
[2018/10/27 12:01] cilla teebrook: it was very clear for this simple minded
[2018/10/27 12:01] Fu Barr: yes - but 'installer-based' user friendly assumes oh just click this button, make coffee and come back to a Better World (tm)
[2018/10/27 12:01] cilla teebrook: just don't ask me to repeat it
[2018/10/27 12:02] Fu Barr: it just doesn't work like that.
[2018/10/27 12:02] Arielle Popstar: well without a doubt, High fidelity server is a lot easier\
[2018/10/27 12:02] Snoots Dwagon: See thing is, I firmly believe that even newbs can have computer functions explained to them in understandable language, to the point that they can use the computer without deep-diving router code. And I believe software can be set up to be just as simple to understand-- if someone bothers to do so. That my story and I sticking to it. :D
[2018/10/27 12:02] Fu Barr: but i dont want to flog this dead horse.
[2018/10/27 12:02] Fu Barr: it's pretty clear what i think of theissue :)
[2018/10/27 12:02] Arielle Popstar: its up and running with hardly any user inytervention\
[2018/10/27 12:02] Arielle Popstar: biggest issue is turning it off :)\
[2018/10/27 12:02] albertlr Landar: Well as its now at the top of the hour and past 12, does anyone have anything else they would like to bring up this week.
[2018/10/27 12:03] Fu Barr: Snoots - i agree with you - completely. but you're basically saying what i;m saying - educate the user.
[2018/10/27 12:03] Fu Barr: but installing opensim is complicated as such so you haave to explain a lot of stuff....
[2018/10/27 12:03] TIGGS Beaumont: other than going back to being naked upon entry issue i am good for now
[2018/10/27 12:03] Koni Lanzius: intersting meeting, thanks Albirtir
[2018/10/27 12:03] albertlr Landar: And thats what we try to do in the Wiki, and anyone that wants to help with that just let us know.
[2018/10/27 12:03] Koni Lanzius: later, taters
[2018/10/27 12:03] TIGGS Beaumont: Thank you all *smiles
[2018/10/27 12:04] Fu Barr: i had something - but i forgot.
[2018/10/27 12:04] TIGGS Beaumont: Albetir Thank you
[2018/10/27 12:04] albertlr Landar: It can always be improved and added too.
[2018/10/27 12:04] Fu Barr: lol
[2018/10/27 12:04] cilla teebrook: everyone runs
[2018/10/27 12:04] TIGGS Beaumont: FU!!!
[2018/10/27 12:04] Snoots Dwagon: You may be right there Fu Barr, I can't say at this point cos I haven't deep-dived the installlation thoroughly enough. So I'l bow to experience on that one.
[2018/10/27 12:04] albertlr Landar: Well I must let my dog out he is hounding me litterly
[2018/10/27 12:04] Fu Barr: lol
[2018/10/27 12:04] Fu Barr: thats funny
[2018/10/27 12:04] Snoots Dwagon: But in my experience... almost any software CAN be made to turn-key install.
[2018/10/27 12:04] cilla teebrook: poor thing
[2018/10/27 12:05] Jim Bean: Thank you
[2018/10/27 12:05] Snoots Dwagon: Whether that ever gets done though ,that's a whole nuther subject. :D
[2018/10/27 12:05] George Equus: Thanks Albert. Interesting tonight
[2018/10/27 12:05] albertlr Landar: So if nothing else, we can adjourn for this week, and thanks for the imput from everyone.
[2018/10/27 12:05] Snoots Dwagon: Thansk for meeting Albert. :D
[2018/10/27 12:05] cilla teebrook: grand job dan n al
[2018/10/27 12:05] albertlr Landar: We will be back here in November next week.
[2018/10/27 12:05] albertlr Landar: Remember to vote.
[2018/10/27 12:05] cilla teebrook: vote
[2018/10/27 12:05] Fu Barr: vote?
[2018/10/27 12:05] Snoots Dwagon: gotta run. SEe everyone later! :D
[2018/10/27 12:05] Jim Bean: Bye
[2018/10/27 12:06] cilla teebrook: just for who is the question
[2018/10/27 12:06] albertlr Landar: If you are in the United States.
[2018/10/27 12:06] Snoots Dwagon: Hope everyone has great week
[2018/10/27 12:06] Fu Barr: oh right. that place.
[2018/10/27 12:06] cilla teebrook: popositions gallor
[2018/10/27 12:06] albertlr Landar: Thats up to each indivudial and their conscience.
[2018/10/27 12:06] TIGGS Beaumont: *looks over at Fu
[2018/10/27 12:06] TIGGS Beaumont: hm
[2018/10/27 12:06] George Equus: I'm off then, got a server to update :)
[2018/10/27 12:06] TIGGS Beaumont: <---Yankee Doodle dandy
[2018/10/27 12:06] Romulun Rockett: Just because you have a simple "default" install option, that dosn't mean you have to take any of the advanced options & controls away from those who know how to use them. It's just a quick and simple way to get newbies and non techies started. that's all.
[2018/10/27 12:06] cilla teebrook: giggles At George
[2018/10/27 12:06] TIGGS Beaumont: George tc
[2018/10/27 12:06] albertlr Landar: Thanks for coming and Halloween on the 31st.
[2018/10/27 12:06] cilla teebrook: i want some one to do mine please
[2018/10/27 12:06] TP Hud v3.1-Mine: Listener Turned On
[2018/10/27 12:07] George Equus: Bye for now all
[2018/10/27 12:07] Arielle Popstar: Yes Romulun
[2018/10/27 12:07] TIGGS Beaumont: *waves to the Hat
[2018/10/27 12:07] Jim Bean: Bye
[2018/10/27 12:07] Arielle Popstar: tc George
[2018/10/27 12:07] albertlr Landar: Bye all, continue to discuss if you wish.
[2018/10/27 12:07] Romulun Rockett: yes it's been a great meeting, thatnks all :)
[2018/10/27 12:07] cilla teebrook: i just want to dig in the dirt
[2018/10/27 12:07] TIGGS Beaumont: *waves to Albetir
[2018/10/27 12:07] albertlr Landar: Bye
[2018/10/27 12:07] Jim Bean: Bye


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