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 Post subject: Saturday Q&A for February 9th, 2019
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[2019/02/09 11:00] hipster flower: oh lord tiggs
[2019/02/09 11:01] George Equus is Online
[2019/02/09 11:01] hipster flower: wb
[2019/02/09 11:01] Roland.Francis is Online
[2019/02/09 11:01] TIGGS Beaumont: <-----------shakes head
[2019/02/09 11:01] TIGGS Beaumont: *sigh
[2019/02/09 11:01] George Equus: Hi Azi
[2019/02/09 11:01] albertlr Landar: ...
[2019/02/09 11:01] Azi Az: Hi George :)))))
[2019/02/09 11:01] hipster flower: tiggs sit hun it is ok
[2019/02/09 11:01] albertlr Landar: I had to relog my chat was not working
[2019/02/09 11:01] TIGGS Beaumont: hipster have you seen that sit pose?
[2019/02/09 11:02] hicks adder: oups sorry have to log out
[2019/02/09 11:02] TIGGS Beaumont: in a dress?
[2019/02/09 11:02] albertlr Landar: Greetings all
[2019/02/09 11:02] hipster flower: what one
[2019/02/09 11:02] hicks adder: see you later
[2019/02/09 11:02] TIGGS Beaumont: albetirl hi
[2019/02/09 11:02] albertlr Landar: I see the litte red dancing person is back.
[2019/02/09 11:02] TIGGS Beaumont: Paela is being crucified
[2019/02/09 11:02] TIGGS Beaumont: This is odd today
[2019/02/09 11:02] hipster flower: steals azi puppy
[2019/02/09 11:02] Azi Az: hehhehe
[2019/02/09 11:03] TIGGS Beaumont: lol
[2019/02/09 11:03] hipster flower: my leg jumping i must be nervous
[2019/02/09 11:03] TIGGS Beaumont: oh lord
[2019/02/09 11:03] TIGGS Beaumont: Paela can we switch seats please
[2019/02/09 11:03] George Equus: think there are bugs in the seats
[2019/02/09 11:03] hipster flower: LOL
[2019/02/09 11:03] hipster flower:
[2019/02/09 11:04] TIGGS Beaumont: Thank you love
[2019/02/09 11:04] TIGGS Beaumont: *grins
[2019/02/09 11:04] paela argus: npp
[2019/02/09 11:04] TIGGS Beaumont: my gentleman
[2019/02/09 11:04] Koni Lanzius: that has nice sits in it
[2019/02/09 11:04] hipster flower: fire ants
[2019/02/09 11:04] paela argus: i will speak about peoples break permissions of objects
[2019/02/09 11:04] paela argus: is it possible ?
[2019/02/09 11:04] albertlr Landar: sure
[2019/02/09 11:05] paela argus: OpenSimulator is open source software and free for all, but here is the content present in it is not necessarily opensource
[2019/02/09 11:06] albertlr Landar: basically people should respect the permissions that are set by the creators.
[2019/02/09 11:06] paela argus: changing the permissions of an object you have not created is an infringement of the copyright law if it is not declared opensource part by default,
[2019/02/09 11:08] Azi Az: yes there is a big lack of respect on that matter
[2019/02/09 11:08] paela argus: I say it because every day I see my builds modify and change permissions and that it walks in all grids in full perm when they are by default no transfer
[2019/02/09 11:08] albertlr Landar: not that we have copyright police going after people, but technically it is a violation of the law
[2019/02/09 11:08] Danger Lytton is Online
[2019/02/09 11:09] albertlr Landar: I think that one day once more virtual realties are common, maybe there will be more enforcement of such things.
[2019/02/09 11:09] paela argus: i think the right god tool need change for objects only created by the user ( god tool is a debug tools for objects not to switch the permissions )
[2019/02/09 11:10] Koni Lanzius: or better yet create a system where things cannot be botted, and stores like kitely market sells stuff with that kind of protection
[2019/02/09 11:10] Koni Lanzius: i buy from them all the time
[2019/02/09 11:10] cilla teebrook: so everything is free except for
[2019/02/09 11:10] albertlr Landar: But even in the Real World it is an on going problem, even among the nations of the world.
[2019/02/09 11:10] Koni Lanzius: exactly
[2019/02/09 11:10] paela argus: free does not mean all permissions Cilla
[2019/02/09 11:11] hipster flower: my houses and items i made are free and can be modified
[2019/02/09 11:11] Azi Az: god tool is very handy for many things.......not only for changing others permissions
[2019/02/09 11:11] LaNani Sundara is Online
[2019/02/09 11:11] albertlr Landar: Sometimes its even hard to reset a script.
[2019/02/09 11:11] paela argus: i speak only opensim dev need edit god tool for objects not created by the resident can not break permissions of objects
[2019/02/09 11:11] hipster flower: brb
[2019/02/09 11:12] Lobo Estepario is Offline
[2019/02/09 11:12] albertlr Landar: ok
[2019/02/09 11:12] paela argus: if you are the creator you have full right to kill permissions in ( for debug ) if not you can not but you can move objects, delete it etc
[2019/02/09 11:13] Azi Az: and koni is right.......its much more worrying you get all ur unique creations copyboted .......i have been copyboted entired regions of unique content that is even not copy
[2019/02/09 11:13] cilla teebrook: to be honest.. GOD was explained to me as if it was all part of the package.
[2019/02/09 11:13] Azi Az: that worrys me much more than the god tool
[2019/02/09 11:13] TIGGS Beaumont: so the question becomes how do we, who does it, enforce the DMCA
[2019/02/09 11:13] TIGGS Beaumont: now do we as a grid have the necessary source to hire a full time monitor
[2019/02/09 11:14] TIGGS Beaumont: I think not
[2019/02/09 11:14] TIGGS Beaumont: so what can be done
[2019/02/09 11:14] albertlr Landar: hum, I tried to view Hypergrid Business and get a Not found page.
[2019/02/09 11:14] paela argus: the new viewer copybots are working with a unforcing bug of tools god of LL in viewer
[2019/02/09 11:14] TIGGS Beaumont: in the existing code?
[2019/02/09 11:14] Koni Lanzius: they are having a big discussion about this as people form Inworldz are asking for the content and .oars they paid for to be returned to them
[2019/02/09 11:14] paela argus: ( mesh etc )
[2019/02/09 11:15] TIGGS Beaumont: Koni that is a dead battle
[2019/02/09 11:15] Koni Lanzius: Elania will filter them and not hand anything out that was made by a second party
[2019/02/09 11:15] TIGGS Beaumont: we have lost it all
[2019/02/09 11:15] Koni Lanzius: yea
[2019/02/09 11:15] albertlr Landar: well the complicating matter in that regard is some content in those oars were not to be taken off that grid as determined by the creators.
[2019/02/09 11:15] Koni Lanzius: tragic really
[2019/02/09 11:15] TIGGS Beaumont: islandzs full of plywood were returned to us
[2019/02/09 11:15] Koni Lanzius: bummer
[2019/02/09 11:15] paela argus: ya oar save need some more improvement too
[2019/02/09 11:15] Koni Lanzius: that was lots of real cash down the tubes
[2019/02/09 11:16] paela argus: opensim can have a lots of problem real with copyright not respected
[2019/02/09 11:16] TIGGS Beaumont: Elenia actually fibs a bit there
[2019/02/09 11:16] paela argus: and gdpr not respected too
[2019/02/09 11:16] Koni Lanzius: did she?
[2019/02/09 11:16] TIGGS Beaumont: she did and still is
[2019/02/09 11:16] TIGGS Beaumont: but this is OS not IW
[2019/02/09 11:16] Koni Lanzius: i know folks are pretty frustrated from IZ
[2019/02/09 11:16] albertlr Landar: In real life when you buy a car, who does that belong too.
[2019/02/09 11:17] Koni Lanzius: you and your creditor haha
[2019/02/09 11:17] albertlr Landar: Yourself once you pay it off.
[2019/02/09 11:17] Koni Lanzius: yes
[2019/02/09 11:17] TIGGS Beaumont: but the point on the table here is how do we help grid owners and or creators protect their belongings and rights yes?
[2019/02/09 11:17] Koni Lanzius: and you can drive that car to any city
[2019/02/09 11:17] albertlr Landar: You can also resell it to others, there is no restriction by the car seller or buyer, nor is that allowed.
[2019/02/09 11:17] George Equus: Hi Tiivi
[2019/02/09 11:17] Koni Lanzius: hi tivi
[2019/02/09 11:17] albertlr Landar: Despite the fact that the car owner may have a copyright on the design.
[2019/02/09 11:17] TIGGS Beaumont: I do not mean to or aim to be rude
[2019/02/09 11:17] albertlr Landar: So this is not such a simple matter.
[2019/02/09 11:18] tiivi tuuli: ahoy there
[2019/02/09 11:18] Koni Lanzius: exactly Albirtir
[2019/02/09 11:18] TIGGS Beaumont: but we need to stay on pont no?
[2019/02/09 11:18] TIGGS Beaumont: what can be done to help protect all or most
[2019/02/09 11:18] albertlr Landar: there are very few laws that apply to virtual reality.
[2019/02/09 11:18] TIGGS Beaumont: or many or some perms for grid owners and creators?
[2019/02/09 11:18] Koni Lanzius: yea Snoots did some research, its pretty grey
[2019/02/09 11:18] albertlr Landar: And generally when they do, they also reflect what it would be if in the Real world.
[2019/02/09 11:19] George Equus: Hi Danger
[2019/02/09 11:19] Koni Lanzius: hey Danger
[2019/02/09 11:19] TIGGS Beaumont: Danger hello Tivi :-)
[2019/02/09 11:19] Danger Lytton: hello
[2019/02/09 11:19] albertlr Landar: So I am just saying to not jump to conclusions until things are clarified by the real laws.
[2019/02/09 11:19] Danger Lytton: i am here as a creator today - not as a pirate
[2019/02/09 11:19] Koni Lanzius: heheh
[2019/02/09 11:19] albertlr Landar: I create things too.
[2019/02/09 11:19] albertlr Landar: Music, and I freely share my music with others.
[2019/02/09 11:20] albertlr Landar: And that is the general reason that Osgrid is here.
[2019/02/09 11:20] Azi Az: is there any way to make copybot viewers NOT work in Osgrid ?
[2019/02/09 11:20] Koni Lanzius: most here do freely share
[2019/02/09 11:20] albertlr Landar: To as much as possible share things for free.
[2019/02/09 11:20] Koni Lanzius: and very nice things
[2019/02/09 11:20] cilla teebrook: if someone wanted something I created I would be delighted and would glow.
[2019/02/09 11:20] albertlr Landar: But we also try to respect the rights of the creators as much as we can.
[2019/02/09 11:20] Koni Lanzius: thats the nature of this world, and why i love it so much
[2019/02/09 11:20] albertlr Landar: Its a balance.
[2019/02/09 11:21] albertlr Landar: I think I mentioned that many years ago, this whole thing about copyrights started over on Compuserve.
[2019/02/09 11:21] Danger Lytton: i would like to make a for instance if i may
[2019/02/09 11:21] albertlr Landar: I was there when it happened.
[2019/02/09 11:21] Koni Lanzius: wow, albirtir rly/
[2019/02/09 11:21] albertlr Landar: We had arrangers sharing their arrangements of music that they performed.
[2019/02/09 11:21] Koni Lanzius: yes plz Danger
[2019/02/09 11:22] Danger Lytton: thank yoou
[2019/02/09 11:22] inanna beaumont is Offline
[2019/02/09 11:22] Danger Lytton: as most of u know i do some creating of ships mostly
[2019/02/09 11:22] albertlr Landar: Compuserve got sued because a young man put up an arrangement of Unchained Melody.
[2019/02/09 11:22] Danger Lytton: they are complicated and hard to build
[2019/02/09 11:22] Koni Lanzius: brilliant work, yes
[2019/02/09 11:22] Danger Lytton: i do share them
[2019/02/09 11:22] Danger Lytton: but i cannot share them with kayakers scripts in them
[2019/02/09 11:22] Danger Lytton: because i would violate HIS trust in me
[2019/02/09 11:23] Koni Lanzius: you can buy the script form him
[2019/02/09 11:23] paela argus: personally i have prohibited my local user out any objects of my grid in hg i'm tired all peoples come in my grid for just take content and break it in other grids
[2019/02/09 11:23] Azi Az: he did
[2019/02/09 11:23] Danger Lytton: i need god mode because i frequently pass my ships to my grid
[2019/02/09 11:23] Danger Lytton: and need to be able to reset the perms
[2019/02/09 11:23] Danger Lytton: its essential
[2019/02/09 11:23] Koni Lanzius: yea
[2019/02/09 11:23] TIGGS Beaumont: *raises hand
[2019/02/09 11:23] Danger Lytton: may change to that would pretty much ruin my experience here
[2019/02/09 11:23] paela argus: god grid tool
[2019/02/09 11:23] albertlr Landar: sure Tiggs speak up
[2019/02/09 11:23] paela argus: and owner god tool
[2019/02/09 11:23] Danger Lytton: and that is speaking as a creator
[2019/02/09 11:24] paela argus: is different danger
[2019/02/09 11:24] Koni Lanzius: me too really
[2019/02/09 11:24] paela argus: is not the same permissive
[2019/02/09 11:24] TIGGS Beaumont: does the God tool need to be reinforced somehow?
[2019/02/09 11:24] paela argus: for 144 or 200 level of 250 +
[2019/02/09 11:24] paela argus: per default a owner region have god tool level 200
[2019/02/09 11:24] paela argus: is that need to be changed
[2019/02/09 11:24] paela argus: not the 250 +
[2019/02/09 11:24] Koni Lanzius: couldn't botter just get around that by using God mode on another grid?
[2019/02/09 11:25] albertlr Landar: yea
[2019/02/09 11:25] albertlr Landar: They don't even need to use the god mode to copy things.
[2019/02/09 11:25] paela argus: that depends how you protect your grid koni :)
[2019/02/09 11:26] paela argus: my grid detect a viewer copyboth
[2019/02/09 11:26] Koni Lanzius: i think the solution lies more at creating a better way to sell and lock down products
[2019/02/09 11:26] albertlr Landar: There are ways to ban certain copybot viewers from entering your grid.
[2019/02/09 11:26] paela argus: and ban immediately the user
[2019/02/09 11:26] paela argus: with no chance to again
[2019/02/09 11:26] paela argus: ׺°”˜I'M BACK`”°º×
[2019/02/09 11:27] Danger Lytton: how can we be able to detect copybotters on our regions?
[2019/02/09 11:27] paela argus: is a grid job
[2019/02/09 11:27] cilla teebrook: yes .. please share
[2019/02/09 11:27] albertlr Landar: good question.
[2019/02/09 11:27] paela argus: is a process in login in grid
[2019/02/09 11:27] paela argus: viewer send info
[2019/02/09 11:27] albertlr Landar: by observing what they are doing.
[2019/02/09 11:28] hipster flower: bk
[2019/02/09 11:28] Danger Lytton: maybe a script that would send a message to region owner when it detects a certain type of viewer?
[2019/02/09 11:28] Azi Az: and if u are not there ?
[2019/02/09 11:28] paela argus: example if the mac user change 2 times on hour and again in same hour account are disabled
[2019/02/09 11:28] albertlr Landar: not allow anyone there when not there
[2019/02/09 11:28] Koni Lanzius: a mac user does wut?
[2019/02/09 11:28] albertlr Landar: same problem you would have on second life too.
[2019/02/09 11:28] paela argus: mad adress koni :)
[2019/02/09 11:28] paela argus: not user of mac apple
[2019/02/09 11:28] paela argus: :-P~~
[2019/02/09 11:28] paela argus: mac*
[2019/02/09 11:29] Koni Lanzius: oh ;0
[2019/02/09 11:29] paela argus: yep i use same system of ll for detect if is a viewer copybot or not etc
[2019/02/09 11:29] paela argus: is easy to make in place
[2019/02/09 11:29] paela argus: but not for osgrid
[2019/02/09 11:29] paela argus: because no T.O.S
[2019/02/09 11:29] cilla teebrook: I have many ppl pop in and out several times a day.. is that a sign of a problem
[2019/02/09 11:30] Azi Az: but we users cant do that here in osgrid
[2019/02/09 11:30] inanna beaumont is Online
[2019/02/09 11:30] Danger Lytton: the TOS that prevents us from knowing what Paela?
[2019/02/09 11:30] Koni Lanzius: cnat you just lock your grid down so no one can visit unless they are in your group?
[2019/02/09 11:30] Koni Lanzius: can"t
[2019/02/09 11:30] albertlr Landar: no not necessarily that would indicate you are popular
[2019/02/09 11:30] TIGGS Beaumont: Koni, would that apply to OSG as well?
[2019/02/09 11:31] TIGGS Beaumont: the hub?
[2019/02/09 11:31] cilla teebrook: that would make the Beacon usless
[2019/02/09 11:31] paela argus: hg can come but can not take anythink in my grid
[2019/02/09 11:31] TIGGS Beaumont: where hundreds of grid users pass through?
[2019/02/09 11:31] Koni Lanzius: i would how not
[2019/02/09 11:31] paela argus: local user can not give anything at a hg user
[2019/02/09 11:31] TIGGS Beaumont: would that not kill the grid?
[2019/02/09 11:31] paela argus: is restricted but my grid are commercial
[2019/02/09 11:31] Koni Lanzius: it would as far as visitors
[2019/02/09 11:31] albertlr Landar: there are security settings you can make in your opensim.ini file
[2019/02/09 11:32] Danger Lytton: what lines ?
[2019/02/09 11:32] paela argus: isnt working in osgrid Albert
[2019/02/09 11:32] paela argus: we not have any suitcase configured in osg
[2019/02/09 11:32] Koni Lanzius: you are right if you start locking to many things down the grid will start dying off
[2019/02/09 11:32] hipster flower: ok i need to finish this house hugs all
[2019/02/09 11:32] albertlr Landar: and you have settings in you viewer also.
[2019/02/09 11:32] paela argus: no koni
[2019/02/09 11:32] paela argus: is reverse
[2019/02/09 11:32] paela argus: a grid with no protect = no creator wanna come
[2019/02/09 11:33] albertlr Landar: well its just like in the real world, you can have security, but if you have family and friends, they also may not be able to get into your house if you go too far.
[2019/02/09 11:33] tiivi tuuli: i have to go sleep ni ni everyone
[2019/02/09 11:33] Koni Lanzius: thats my point, thanks Albirtir
[2019/02/09 11:33] albertlr Landar: ok, sleep well
[2019/02/09 11:33] Koni Lanzius: bye
[2019/02/09 11:33] paela argus: for me user hg is a visitor in my grid, not more
[2019/02/09 11:33] tiivi tuuli: tc
[2019/02/09 11:34] albertlr Landar: and thats everyones choice. do what you have to do for your own situation.
[2019/02/09 11:34] Koni Lanzius: can they buy stuff and hyperjump home with it, paela?
[2019/02/09 11:34] paela argus: no koni
[2019/02/09 11:34] Koni Lanzius: its like IZ was then, you buy it there u can only use it there
[2019/02/09 11:35] cilla teebrook: every place i visit .. I scan for free items.... to me that is what I love about exploring.
[2019/02/09 11:35] Koni Lanzius: glad we have Kitely market
[2019/02/09 11:35] albertlr Landar: yea, that has been a great benefit to everyone
[2019/02/09 11:35] TIGGS Beaumont: oh heh Koni I was there last night
[2019/02/09 11:35] TIGGS Beaumont: on the market
[2019/02/09 11:35] paela argus: market kitely are authorized in my grid
[2019/02/09 11:35] Koni Lanzius: i wouldn't live in a grid like that
[2019/02/09 11:35] Koni Lanzius: yea the stuff is getting better all the time
[2019/02/09 11:36] TIGGS Beaumont: I actually like both concepts
[2019/02/09 11:36] paela argus: i work to protect the content of my user
[2019/02/09 11:36] paela argus: not more
[2019/02/09 11:36] TIGGS Beaumont: OSG for all, and for many who cannot afford VW otherwise
[2019/02/09 11:36] TIGGS Beaumont: but are assets
[2019/02/09 11:36] Koni Lanzius: and thats brilliant for your home grid
[2019/02/09 11:36] TIGGS Beaumont: and the closed grids for quality as well, and for scurity for many
[2019/02/09 11:36] Koni Lanzius: it is a walled garden
[2019/02/09 11:36] Mirror Amorasi is Offline
[2019/02/09 11:36] TIGGS Beaumont: commercial growth I love it
[2019/02/09 11:37] Koni Lanzius: this is the open verse
[2019/02/09 11:37] albertlr Landar: BTw, I will repeat again. That Hypergrid Business website seems to be off line.
[2019/02/09 11:37] cilla teebrook: hugs are felt
[2019/02/09 11:37] Koni Lanzius: huh
[2019/02/09 11:37] paela argus: maria have said stop it
[2019/02/09 11:37] paela argus: if i remember
[2019/02/09 11:37] albertlr Landar: She was cutting back but not taking it off line.
[2019/02/09 11:38] Wizard Atazoth: yea i just get an empty directory listen on hypergrid buissnes
[2019/02/09 11:38] Koni Lanzius: temporarily?
[2019/02/09 11:38] Wizard Atazoth: listing*
[2019/02/09 11:38] Wizard Atazoth: maybe technical issues
[2019/02/09 11:38] albertlr Landar: hopefully.
[2019/02/09 11:38] Koni Lanzius: yea love her site
[2019/02/09 11:38] albertlr Landar: you don't pay the DNS people and they do cut you off.
[2019/02/09 11:39] albertlr Landar: abruptly
[2019/02/09 11:39] paela argus: in any case all the information in hypergrid business is totally corrupted and moreover it is not neutral in relation to grids which makes the journalism that should not take place
[2019/02/09 11:39] albertlr Landar: well we are coming up on the time that G+ is pulling their plug too.
[2019/02/09 11:39] George Equus: is up but completely empty of contents
[2019/02/09 11:39] Koni Lanzius: weme seems to be working well
[2019/02/09 11:39] Koni Lanzius: or mewe
[2019/02/09 11:40] Koni Lanzius: whatever
[2019/02/09 11:40] albertlr Landar: well not as active as I wished it was.
[2019/02/09 11:40] Koni Lanzius: maybe it needs time
[2019/02/09 11:40] albertlr Landar: I am going to look into getting us set up as a non-profit on it eventually.
[2019/02/09 11:40] paela argus: why not create a real social website for opensim only
[2019/02/09 11:40] albertlr Landar: right now I am sort of handling it.
[2019/02/09 11:40] Koni Lanzius: oh cool
[2019/02/09 11:41] albertlr Landar: Would be nice but we don't have the expertise that you do.
[2019/02/09 11:41] Koni Lanzius: let me know if you need any advert media or anything ALbirtir
[2019/02/09 11:41] albertlr Landar: yea, always
[2019/02/09 11:41] albertlr Landar: Anyone can post their events there.
[2019/02/09 11:42] TIGGS Beaumont: time
[2019/02/09 11:42] cilla teebrook: we peep RL is home to take me to Kaiser Urgent Care. I fell down last night and injured both legs. Sooooooo I'll be around more laying here in my bed. dont know if yay or nay
[2019/02/09 11:42] Koni Lanzius: ya got the forums, but they are not as spalhy as Maria's site
[2019/02/09 11:42] Koni Lanzius: spashy
[2019/02/09 11:42] TIGGS Beaumont: I need to scoot hope to see y'all at the event new songstress
[2019/02/09 11:42] albertlr Landar: oh, ok.
[2019/02/09 11:42] albertlr Landar: take care cilla
[2019/02/09 11:42] Koni Lanzius: bye
[2019/02/09 11:42] albertlr Landar: Ok bye Tiggs
[2019/02/09 11:42] George Equus: All these social media platforms drive me nuts, and many others it seem. Would it not be best for everyone if ALL posts were made in Twitter primarily. It will be seen by all that log in to the grid.
[2019/02/09 11:42] paela argus: koni all stats of maria are corrupted
[2019/02/09 11:43] Koni Lanzius: i was referring to her nice layout
[2019/02/09 11:43] paela argus: example Sacraruim in top technology of opensim ? that grid use Wifi ..
[2019/02/09 11:43] albertlr Landar: I've got to preform surgery on my kitchen sink, the garbage disposal which I never use is leaking.
[2019/02/09 11:43] albertlr Landar: so will be leaving at the top of the hour also.
[2019/02/09 11:43] Koni Lanzius: yes, it is easy to skew a popular opinion poll, just get all your friends to respond
[2019/02/09 11:44] albertlr Landar: I question some of the most popular places also.
[2019/02/09 11:44] Koni Lanzius: opinion polls are way to easy to influence
[2019/02/09 11:44] paela argus: well i can spoof my ip and make 450 answer at my self on her google form easy
[2019/02/09 11:44] Koni Lanzius: yes perfect example
[2019/02/09 11:45] albertlr Landar: Looks like the manipulation of the media is constantly happening in the Real world too.
[2019/02/09 11:45] Koni Lanzius: yup
[2019/02/09 11:45] albertlr Landar: Never ending battle for the truth.
[2019/02/09 11:46] paela argus: 4 year before i have said a speaking in mail of maria about my grid she have change all for her opinion have never send again any infos after lols
[2019/02/09 11:46] Wizard Atazoth: ... gr%5Etweet
[2019/02/09 11:46] albertlr Landar: Lets see we got the Valentine Days Dance coming up on the 15th don't we?
[2019/02/09 11:46] Wizard Atazoth: look like technical issues with HGB
[2019/02/09 11:46] Koni Lanzius: i think that content creators should have a conference and see if they can fix the content perms at the item level
[2019/02/09 11:46] Koni Lanzius: we do
[2019/02/09 11:47] George Equus: Thanks Wiz
[2019/02/09 11:47] Koni Lanzius: its like the oil industry putting out hi CO2 vehicles and then blaming the buyers for using them'
[2019/02/09 11:47] paela argus: she use wordpress and that cms is a issue of security per default lols,
[2019/02/09 11:47] paela argus: i need to go :)
[2019/02/09 11:47] Koni Lanzius: good to fix at the item
[2019/02/09 11:47] albertlr Landar: Oh, good at least it will come back.
[2019/02/09 11:47] paela argus: later all a nice weekend for all
[2019/02/09 11:47] Koni Lanzius: bye
[2019/02/09 11:48] albertlr Landar: ok bye paela, take care
[2019/02/09 11:48] Wizard Atazoth: yes albert. 15th for Valentines party (its a friday). Aussie has booked some singers for the event. I know Singer Girl will be there. Maybe more. Should be cool.
[2019/02/09 11:48] Koni Lanzius: neato
[2019/02/09 11:48] albertlr Landar: Great.
[2019/02/09 11:48] Koni Lanzius: bye Peala
[2019/02/09 11:48] Azi Az: Tc Paela :))
[2019/02/09 11:48] Foxx Bode: *-* ByE *-*
[2019/02/09 11:49] albertlr Landar: I am struggling with midi software, trying to figure out how to edit notes.
[2019/02/09 11:49] Koni Lanzius: ~** HAHAHA! **~
[2019/02/09 11:49] Koni Lanzius: I hope we don't end up with perm police here
[2019/02/09 11:49] paela argus is Online
[2019/02/09 11:50] Foxx Bode: i dont see how.
[2019/02/09 11:50] albertlr Landar: We are small stuff compared to the big world out there.
[2019/02/09 11:50] Foxx Bode: if i open my the local XML files in my cache i can edit as much as i like, without viewer.
[2019/02/09 11:50] Azi Az: we live in a world without rules.........Respect its the more important..
[2019/02/09 11:50] Foxx Bode: im admin on my pc
[2019/02/09 11:51] Koni Lanzius: exactly Azi
[2019/02/09 11:51] Koni Lanzius: i think we are doing fine
[2019/02/09 11:51] albertlr Landar: I think for the size of OSgrid, it does a very good job of keeping most people satisfied.
[2019/02/09 11:52] albertlr Landar: Can't always please everyone but we try.
[2019/02/09 11:52] albertlr Landar: And what attracted me to OSgrid, and opensim was the open source attitude.
[2019/02/09 11:53] Azi Az: for me the most worrying thing are the copybotters..........should be a way to stop those viewers work
[2019/02/09 11:53] albertlr Landar: Glad to support it.
[2019/02/09 11:53] albertlr Landar: Not even Second life can do that.
[2019/02/09 11:53] albertlr Landar: And they have lots of reasons to do so.
[2019/02/09 11:53] Wizard Atazoth: They change the viewers as fast as sl can block them in most cases.
[2019/02/09 11:53] George Equus: And a HUGE staff of programmers...
[2019/02/09 11:54] albertlr Landar: yep
[2019/02/09 11:54] albertlr Landar: and that is where most of the copy botting is going on, not on opensim
[2019/02/09 11:54] Azi Az: oh well
[2019/02/09 11:55] albertlr Landar: well coming up on top of hour.
[2019/02/09 11:55] albertlr Landar: Does anyone have anything else they would like to bring up this week.
[2019/02/09 11:56] George Equus: Thanks Albert. Be mindful of your fingers now...
[2019/02/09 11:56] Wizard Atazoth: Oh I have one final thing. We have a exhibit on opensimfest. I'm putting up some pictures of regions on osgrid at it. If anyone wants their region showcased send me an IM
[2019/02/09 11:56] Koni Lanzius: no thanks Albertlr, once again thanks for an interesting meeting
[2019/02/09 11:56] albertlr Landar: actually I am getting more exercise with my fingers now that I have midi keyboard again.
[2019/02/09 11:57] George Equus: Was thinking of your plumbing...
[2019/02/09 11:57] albertlr Landar: I will have new music posted soon. Discovered that there is a Soundcloud. where people share their things all the time now.
[2019/02/09 11:57] George Equus: sharp knives in those things
[2019/02/09 11:57] albertlr Landar: ok, well got someone else to handle the hard tools.
[2019/02/09 11:57] Koni Lanzius: oh lovely
[2019/02/09 11:57] albertlr Landar: I am just the supervisor.
[2019/02/09 11:58] George Equus: OK Albert :)
[2019/02/09 11:58] Foxx Bode: well, thnx and have a good weekend all.
[2019/02/09 11:59] Foxx Bode: *-* ByE *-*
[2019/02/09 11:59] albertlr Landar: If fact removing the garbage disposal .
[2019/02/09 11:59] George Equus: Bye all.
[2019/02/09 11:59] Koni Lanzius: bye guys
[2019/02/09 11:59] albertlr Landar: Well thanks for coming everyone see you next week.
[2019/02/09 11:59] Koni Lanzius: kk see ya
[2019/02/09 11:59] albertlr Landar: Take care,,,
[2019/02/09 11:59] Wizard Atazoth: tc all

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