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 Post subject: Saturday Q&A for October 5th, 2019
PostPosted: Sun Oct 06, 2019 12:20 pm 
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[2019-10-05 11:00:40] Kayaker Magic: Hi Albertir, nobody else is here?
[2019-10-05 11:00:48] Kayaker Magic: or are they not rezzing for me?
[2019-10-05 11:01:00] Kayaker Magic: Or am I not fashionably late yet?
[2019-10-05 11:01:09] albertlr Landar: nope not yet.
[2019-10-05 11:01:19] LaNani Sundara is Offline
[2019-10-05 11:01:23] albertlr Landar: maybe kind of slow I am afraid.
[2019-10-05 11:01:32] albertlr Landar: Just me so far.
[2019-10-05 11:02:09] Kayaker Magic: I have not made it here for this meeting in a while
[2019-10-05 11:02:15] Kayaker Magic: lots of traveling in RL
[2019-10-05 11:02:53] albertlr Landar: Oh ok.
[2019-10-05 11:03:26] albertlr Landar: Well we did not make our goal of $5,000 but did make almost 3/4 of it.
[2019-10-05 11:03:35] albertlr Landar: So still pleased with the results.
[2019-10-05 11:03:44] albertlr Landar: pleased
[2019-10-05 11:04:10] albertlr Landar: Greetings Jeff.
[2019-10-05 11:04:18] Kayaker Magic: I set up a monthly donation years ago.
[2019-10-05 11:04:32] Kayaker Magic: Does my normal contribution count towards your goals?
[2019-10-05 11:04:32] albertlr Landar: And that helps a lot.
[2019-10-05 11:04:35] Jeff Hall: hi albert and kayak
[2019-10-05 11:04:59] albertlr Landar: we were able to get few monthly donations too during the campaign.
[2019-10-05 11:05:06] albertlr Landar: That helped.
[2019-10-05 11:05:16] Jeff Hall: monthly ones are good yes
[2019-10-05 11:05:37] albertlr Landar: I was able to deposit about $256 in linden donations to our bank account yesterday.
[2019-10-05 11:05:44] Jeff Hall: i wished we reached the 5 000$ but didn't this year
[2019-10-05 11:06:08] albertlr Landar: Well I think we need to being the goal down a little., but did good regardless
[2019-10-05 11:06:15] Kayaker Magic: I don't recall having seen much advertising about the drive this year.
[2019-10-05 11:07:00] albertlr Landar: Well not everyone that was going to help us was available I am afraid, and I myself am facing some surgery so was not able to check on everything.
[2019-10-05 11:07:46] albertlr Landar: But we had good support from Caro, and Wizard and Aussie that got everything running as well as we could.
[2019-10-05 11:07:59] albertlr Landar: And Foxx and Caro got us a good boost with the auctions.
[2019-10-05 11:08:21] Kayaker Magic: Ah, I do recall seeing buzz about the auctions.
[2019-10-05 11:09:16] Jeff Hall: im happy i reached 120$ with my coster d=for auction:)
[2019-10-05 11:09:38] albertlr Landar: Yes, it did very well.
[2019-10-05 11:09:51] Kayaker Magic: What was that Jeff?
[2019-10-05 11:10:02] albertlr Landar: It was a paperclip coaster.
[2019-10-05 11:10:02] Jeff Hall: paper clip roller coaster
[2019-10-05 11:10:09] Jeff Hall: yep
[2019-10-05 11:10:10] albertlr Landar: looked amazing.
[2019-10-05 11:10:24] Kayaker Magic: Ah, roller coaster.
[2019-10-05 11:10:27] albertlr Landar: shaped like a paper clip.
[2019-10-05 11:10:56] Jeff Hall: can be installed on a small area
[2019-10-05 11:13:25] Jeff Hall: seems there's not many people around here today
[2019-10-05 11:14:21] albertlr Landar: yea, kind of few people out and around. I guess fall and back to school has people occupied.
[2019-10-05 11:14:35] albertlr Landar: BTW, either of you use MAC's
[2019-10-05 11:14:59] albertlr Landar: you know apple is coming out with a new operating system.
[2019-10-05 11:15:13] Jeff Hall: mm sorry im on win
[2019-10-05 11:15:27] Kayaker Magic: I used to use a Mac to get in-world, When it died, I switched back to PCs
[2019-10-05 11:15:29] albertlr Landar: and many developers are telling their users not to upgrade, as their applications will likely not work on it.
[2019-10-05 11:16:00] Jeff Hall: how lovely it is
[2019-10-05 11:16:02] albertlr Landar: they say they need time to make their apps compatible before they should upgrade.
[2019-10-05 11:16:30] albertlr Landar: so was thinking will probably affect opensim too I would think.
[2019-10-05 11:17:20] Kayaker Magic: FireStorm keeps threatening to drop OpenSim suppoert.
[2019-10-05 11:17:43] Kayaker Magic: Gavin Hurd is making an OpenSim only branch of the FireStorm code, called Dayturn.
[2019-10-05 11:17:54] Kayaker Magic: I think he is slow to come out with Mac versions....
[2019-10-05 11:18:36] Jeff Hall: well if hes alone with opensim i can understand
[2019-10-05 11:18:52] Jeff Hall: for sure u wont like dev like ansariel helping on that
[2019-10-05 11:19:07] Jeff Hall: (...)
[2019-10-05 11:19:26] Jeff Hall: *wont have
[2019-10-05 11:20:36] Azi Az is Online
[2019-10-05 11:20:39] Roland.Francis is Online
[2019-10-05 11:21:04] Kayaker Magic: albertlr? You back?
[2019-10-05 11:21:17] Jeff Hall: wb albert
[2019-10-05 11:21:22] albertlr Landar: yea, had lag chat
[2019-10-05 11:21:32] albertlr Landar: I typed and it did not appear.
[2019-10-05 11:22:00] albertlr Landar: Hello Izzey
[2019-10-05 11:22:03] albertlr Landar: greetings
[2019-10-05 11:22:16] Jeff Hall: hi izzie
[2019-10-05 11:22:59] Danger Lytton is Online
[2019-10-05 11:22:59] Jeff Hall: so as i was saying i haven't looked at jira's devs for fs lately; did anyone do recently?
[2019-10-05 11:23:41] albertlr Landar: well there is a interesting intro on the fs site, but still not sure where they are officially going with opensim support.
[2019-10-05 11:23:59] albertlr Landar: looked like they were looking for a developer to come on board to work on the opensim version.
[2019-10-05 11:24:12] Jeff Hall: k yes
[2019-10-05 11:24:23] Jeff Hall: not many for opensim there unfortunately
[2019-10-05 11:24:29] albertlr Landar: so I guess that time will tell.
[2019-10-05 11:24:33] Jeff Hall: yes
[2019-10-05 11:24:45] Jeff Hall: i think there's only one person at moment
[2019-10-05 11:24:53] albertlr Landar: it will probably take someone that is more involved with opensim, rather than second life.
[2019-10-05 11:24:53] Jeff Hall: but i cant tell really
[2019-10-05 11:25:03] Jeff Hall: yes absolutely
[2019-10-05 11:25:29] Jeff Hall: and more concerned about building and admins tool than other 'social' functions
[2019-10-05 11:25:37] albertlr Landar: yea.
[2019-10-05 11:26:12] albertlr Landar: it would be nice to have a viewer that brought in more building tools for a change, rather than to just support those that second life uses.
[2019-10-05 11:26:26] Jeff Hall: yes
[2019-10-05 11:27:25] Kayaker Magic: Any of you used that tool in SL called "cisium" (I think).
[2019-10-05 11:27:32] albertlr Landar: especially in the area of mesh.
[2019-10-05 11:27:42] Jeff Hall: thing is that most opensim users build but not all SL users
[2019-10-05 11:27:46] albertlr Landar: what does that do?
[2019-10-05 11:27:53] albertlr Landar: never heard of it.
[2019-10-05 11:27:55] Kayaker Magic: You build with a library of mesh parts and a server optimizes the combination.
[2019-10-05 11:28:14] Kayaker Magic: Has lots of rounded pillow like parts for making furniture.
[2019-10-05 11:28:26] albertlr Landar: hum, sort of a scripted tool for assembling things then.
[2019-10-05 11:28:50] Kayaker Magic: I'm tempted to make one for OpenSim if the SL creators don't want to port it here.
[2019-10-05 11:29:06] Jeff Hall: while i do appreciate mesh i like prims too and seems like there is too much focus on meshes and npcs here but its very personal opinion
[2019-10-05 11:29:07] albertlr Landar: that would be great addition to opensim.
[2019-10-05 11:30:04] albertlr Landar: oh I agree. Prims are really easier to use in the end.
[2019-10-05 11:30:18] Kayaker Magic: I think what made SL take off was that anyone could build in-world.
[2019-10-05 11:30:22] Jeff Hall: more 'in situ'
[2019-10-05 11:30:27] Kayaker Magic: We need more tools like that.
[2019-10-05 11:30:27] albertlr Landar: agreed.
[2019-10-05 11:34:15] Mirror Amorasi is Offline
[2019-10-05 11:34:17] albertlr Landar: Well anything else going on this week.
[2019-10-05 11:34:52] Jeff Hall: apart that i started using a compact keyboard and a vertical mouse no
[2019-10-05 11:35:07] albertlr Landar: vertical mouse?
[2019-10-05 11:35:11] Jeff Hall: (if u experience some arm/shoulder pain)
[2019-10-05 11:35:13] Roland.Francis is Offline
[2019-10-05 11:35:15] Jeff Hall: yed
[2019-10-05 11:35:18] Jeff Hall: *yes
[2019-10-05 11:35:32] albertlr Landar: never heard of that one.
[2019-10-05 11:35:46] Jeff Hall: ... e/A7852011
[2019-10-05 11:35:57] Jeff Hall: and i use a compact keyboard too
[2019-10-05 11:36:06] Jeff Hall: without numpad
[2019-10-05 11:36:17] albertlr Landar: and you put you hard around that?
[2019-10-05 11:36:20] Jeff Hall: so right arm wont go offset
[2019-10-05 11:36:34] albertlr Landar: hand
[2019-10-05 11:36:37] Jeff Hall: u just use like a normal mouse
[2019-10-05 11:36:51] Jeff Hall: but your wrist is at a more neutral position
[2019-10-05 11:37:06] albertlr Landar: that is the front part facing you in the pic.
[2019-10-05 11:37:18] Jeff Hall: right
[2019-10-05 11:37:57] albertlr Landar: I have a ms ergonomic mouse but it is like an egg in shape.
[2019-10-05 11:38:08] Jeff Hall: k
[2019-10-05 11:38:17] Jeff Hall: if it fits well then great
[2019-10-05 11:38:25] Jeff Hall: i also use this now:
[2019-10-05 11:38:25] Jeff Hall: ... -keyboard/
[2019-10-05 11:38:30] albertlr Landar: well I have less problems with wrist pain.
[2019-10-05 11:39:43] Jeff Hall: that's good
[2019-10-05 11:40:05] albertlr Landar: mine by Ms is shaped like a bump in the center and it slants down on each side, and the numeric key pad is separate little module.
[2019-10-05 11:41:15] Jeff Hall: u can take numeric pad away?
[2019/10/05 11:43] Azi Az is Online
[2019/10/05 11:43] albertlr Landar: sorry chat lag again.
[2019/10/05 11:43] Jeff Hall: wb again
[2019/10/05 11:43] albertlr Landar: must be viewer I was using so using older one now.
[2019/10/05 11:44] Jeff Hall: what are u using?
[2019/10/05 11:44] albertlr Landar: But the mouse, keyboard and little numeric key module I have all came as a group.
[2019/10/05 11:44] Jeff Hall: k nice
[2019/10/05 11:44] albertlr Landar: I was using the latest singularity.
[2019/10/05 11:44] albertlr Landar: Alpha
[2019/10/05 11:44] Jeff Hall: k
[2019/10/05 11:45] albertlr Landar: But the mouse stopped working, so bought a new one.
[2019/10/05 11:45] Jeff Hall: k yes
[2019/10/05 11:45] albertlr Landar: But now I can' get it to work with same usb , so have to use its own usb.
[2019/10/05 11:46] Jeff Hall: k
[2019/10/05 11:46] Jeff Hall: is good to have ergonomic stuff
[2019/10/05 11:46] albertlr Landar: Logitech has a way to get their to work together, MS doesn't
[2019/10/05 11:46] Jeff Hall: i just started to have pain recently
[2019/10/05 11:46] Jeff Hall: k
[2019/10/05 11:46] albertlr Landar: yea, best to take attention on it can be permanent.
[2019/10/05 11:46] Jeff Hall: absolutely
[2019/10/05 11:46] Jeff Hall: ... utMFQSgBHM:
[2019/10/05 11:47] Jeff Hall: this is why i use a compact keyboard without numeric pad attached
[2019/10/05 11:47] Jeff Hall: oops
[2019/10/05 11:47] albertlr Landar: yea, lots of choices
[2019/10/05 11:48] albertlr Landar: I like the ms ergonomic keyboard because it comes with a wrist rest on the front of it.
[2019/10/05 11:48] Jeff Hall: this one sorry:
[2019/10/05 11:48] Jeff Hall: ... c-keyboard
[2019/10/05 11:48] albertlr Landar: but it is expensive.
[2019/10/05 11:48] Jeff Hall: k yes
[2019/10/05 11:49] albertlr Landar: well the little numeric keypad module runs on a watch battery unlike the keyboard and mouse which use regular batteries in MS.
[2019/10/05 11:49] Jeff Hall: to conclude its worth looking at those if u work a lot with comp;)
[2019/10/05 11:50] Jeff Hall: nice
[2019/10/05 11:50] Jeff Hall: i feel good with my right arm now using those
[2019/10/05 11:50] albertlr Landar: I am use to using a calculator, so the little separate module is very much like a calculator keypad, so am able to do finances quite fast with it.
[2019/10/05 11:50] Jeff Hall: is healing slowly
[2019/10/05 11:50] Jeff Hall: yes i understand
[2019/10/05 11:51] albertlr Landar: that's good., use a wrist strap sometime also it can help.
[2019/10/05 11:51] Azi Az is Offline
[2019/10/05 11:51] Jeff Hall: yes though i don't need much with a vertical mouse though
[2019/10/05 11:53] albertlr Landar: well thanks for coming everyone I guess we can adjourn this week.
[2019/10/05 11:53] albertlr Landar: got a thunderstorm coming where I am.
[2019/10/05 11:54] Jeff Hall: ty albert and well have more people next time;)
[2019/10/05 11:54] Kayaker Magic: I need to get to my RL chores....
[2019/10/05 11:54] albertlr Landar: but we can use some rain, had a bad drought here for a good while.
[2019/10/05 11:54] Jeff Hall: have a nice day albert and kayak
[2019/10/05 11:54] albertlr Landar: Same to you, take care.
[2019/10/05 11:54] Jeff Hall: bbfn:)
[2019/10/05 11:54] albertlr Landar: wow Kayaker has a way of leaving that seems unique.
[2019/10/05 11:55] albertlr Landar: by Izzie thanks for coming.

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