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 Post subject: Saturday Q&A for March 9th, 2019
PostPosted: Sat Mar 16, 2019 11:55 am 
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[2019/03/09 10:57] LaNani Sundara is Online
[2019/03/09 10:59] stiofain mactomais is Online
[2019/03/09 10:59] Caro Fayray: hey albert and george
[2019/03/09 10:59] albertlr Landar: hello Caro
[2019/03/09 10:59] George Equus: Hi Caro
[2019/03/09 11:01] Caro Fayray: get to choose a cushion:)
[2019/03/09 11:01] Caro Fayray: hey stio
[2019/03/09 11:01] George Equus: Hi Stio
[2019/03/09 11:01] albertlr Landar: hello stio
[2019/03/09 11:01] stiofain mactomais: hi folks
[2019/03/09 11:02] Caro Fayray: hey total:)
[2019/03/09 11:02] Total Sorbet: hi folks :)
[2019/03/09 11:02] George Equus: Hello Total
[2019/03/09 11:02] albertlr Landar: greetings Total
[2019/03/09 11:02] Total Sorbet: :)
[2019/03/09 11:03] Caro Fayray: hey jeff
[2019/03/09 11:03] albertlr Landar: hello Jeff
[2019/03/09 11:03] George Equus: My trackball is acting up...
[2019/03/09 11:03] Jeff Hall: hey everyone
[2019/03/09 11:03] George Equus: Hi Jeff
[2019/03/09 11:03] Jeff Hall: waiting for rezzing:)
[2019/03/09 11:03] Total Sorbet: hi jeff :)
[2019/03/09 11:03] albertlr Landar: I use to use a track ball, but found it hurt my wrist and hand.
[2019/03/09 11:04] stiofain mactomais: hey jeff
[2019/03/09 11:04] Caro Fayray: it all rezzed fast or me this time
[2019/03/09 11:04] Caro Fayray: hi arthur
[2019/03/09 11:04] albertlr Landar: Hello Arthur, welcome
[2019/03/09 11:05] Arthur Numbanumba: heya all :-)
[2019/03/09 11:05] stiofain mactomais: fastest ever for me usually have probs here
[2019/03/09 11:05] Caro Fayray: same here
[2019/03/09 11:06] TIGGS Beaumont: Cilla HUGzs
[2019/03/09 11:06] George Equus: Probably batteries, very old rechargeables and probably time to scrap and replace with brand new.
[2019/03/09 11:06] Caro Fayray: hey cilla
[2019/03/09 11:06] TIGGS Beaumont: someone tp please?
[2019/03/09 11:06] TIGGS Beaumont: hehe cilla HUG again
[2019/03/09 11:06] Caro Fayray: hey tiggs hugs
[2019/03/09 11:07] TIGGS Beaumont: Caro HUGzs I see noone
[2019/03/09 11:07] cilla teebrook: was a bitch getting here
[2019/03/09 11:07] George Equus: Hi Tiggs, Cilla, Arthur
[2019/03/09 11:07] TIGGS Beaumont: except cilla
[2019/03/09 11:07] cilla teebrook: ooops
[2019/03/09 11:07] Caro Fayray: mmmcant tp u
[2019/03/09 11:07] Caro Fayray: is greyed out
[2019/03/09 11:07] Arthur Numbanumba: hey george
[2019/03/09 11:07] TIGGS Beaumont: yayyyyy
[2019/03/09 11:07] albertlr Landar: hello tiggs and cilla
[2019/03/09 11:07] Caro Fayray: u made it:)
[2019/03/09 11:07] TIGGS Beaumont: Greetings all you special people
[2019/03/09 11:07] TIGGS Beaumont: Geo HUG hat
[2019/03/09 11:08] TIGGS Beaumont: Jeff HUG hey
[2019/03/09 11:08] TIGGS Beaumont: Caro HUGzs
[2019/03/09 11:08] TIGGS Beaumont: Total HUG hey
[2019/03/09 11:08] TIGGS Beaumont: Stiofan HUGzs
[2019/03/09 11:08] Total Sorbet waves madly :p
[2019/03/09 11:08] TIGGS Beaumont: Arthur hello welocme have a seat
[2019/03/09 11:08] Arthur Numbanumba: ty willdo
[2019/03/09 11:08] Arthur Numbanumba: ;)
[2019/03/09 11:09] Azi Az is Online
[2019/03/09 11:09] Arthur Numbanumba: *cough*
[2019/03/09 11:09] albertlr Landar: well I guess we can begain this week
[2019/03/09 11:09] stiofain mactomais: hi tiggs
[2019/03/09 11:09] albertlr Landar: not a lot going on at least yet
[2019/03/09 11:09] albertlr Landar: got St. Patricks day celebrations coming up soon
[2019/03/09 11:10] albertlr Landar: Sign over there with details.
[2019/03/09 11:10] Arthur Numbanumba: :)
[2019/03/09 11:10] Caro Fayray: fri 15th yes
[2019/03/09 11:10] Caro Fayray: get your green gear out
[2019/03/09 11:10] TIGGS Beaumont: Paela HUG hello
[2019/03/09 11:10] Caro Fayray: hey pae hugs
[2019/03/09 11:10] Total Sorbet: lols p
[2019/03/09 11:10] albertlr Landar: We celebrate with Parade here in Savannah on the 16th.
[2019/03/09 11:10] paela argus: hi
[2019/03/09 11:10] stiofain mactomais: we will be doing usual special st pats sun 17th too
[2019/03/09 11:11] George Equus: Hi Paela
[2019/03/09 11:11] Caro Fayray: when is the actual day stio?
[2019/03/09 11:11] albertlr Landar: stio is sticking with main date.
[2019/03/09 11:11] albertlr Landar: 17th
[2019/03/09 11:11] Caro Fayray: ah ok
[2019/03/09 11:11] TIGGS Beaumont: the 17thStio will be kiltified'
[2019/03/09 11:11] Total Sorbet: ooOO
[2019/03/09 11:11] Jeff Hall: lol
[2019/03/09 11:11] TIGGS Beaumont: knockkneed and all
[2019/03/09 11:11] TIGGS Beaumont: heh
[2019/03/09 11:11] stiofain mactomais: lol firstt time ever i think since been in vws st pats and sunday coincide
[2019/03/09 11:12] albertlr Landar: well I had my DNA results and I am Scottish-Irish mainly
[2019/03/09 11:12] Caro Fayray: lol
[2019/03/09 11:12] Dragon Moorlord is Online
[2019/03/09 11:12] Arthur Numbanumba: :D
[2019/03/09 11:12] TIGGS Beaumont: yayyyyy albetrl the good stuff
[2019/03/09 11:12] stiofain mactomais: lol kilts are scots
[2019/03/09 11:12] TIGGS Beaumont: okay issue time?
[2019/03/09 11:12] albertlr Landar: Also it was said that St. Patrick was born on Loch Lomond where my family is from.
[2019/03/09 11:12] TIGGS Beaumont: I have one
[2019/03/09 11:12] Arthur Numbanumba: cool
[2019/03/09 11:12] TIGGS Beaumont: *ahem, clears throat'
[2019/03/09 11:12] paela argus: need work a skirt now albert :D
[2019/03/09 11:12] albertlr Landar: ok issure?
[2019/03/09 11:13] Total Sorbet: kilts are now scots and stio :D
[2019/03/09 11:13] TIGGS Beaumont: LAG LAG LAG NUDE NUDE NUDE FEMALES
[2019/03/09 11:13] paela argus: worn**
[2019/03/09 11:13] TIGGS Beaumont: why?
[2019/03/09 11:13] cilla teebrook: ADD clothing
[2019/03/09 11:13] albertlr Landar: wear sun glasses.
[2019/03/09 11:13] cilla teebrook: and then remove
[2019/03/09 11:13] paela argus: work well for me :/
[2019/03/09 11:14] TIGGS Beaumont: wait\wear sunglasses/
[2019/03/09 11:14] albertlr Landar: to block view
[2019/03/09 11:14] TIGGS Beaumont: Paela but your dress is by now a part of you
[2019/03/09 11:14] paela argus: remember osgrid is optimised for real server in datacenter not home simulators
[2019/03/09 11:15] TIGGS Beaumont: okay
[2019/03/09 11:15] TIGGS Beaumont: and I have a good computer
[2019/03/09 11:15] TIGGS Beaumont: but I remember a short time when this was greatly reduced, and now the problem returns
[2019/03/09 11:16] TIGGS Beaumont: ummmm
[2019/03/09 11:16] paela argus: work good :)
[2019/03/09 11:16] TIGGS Beaumont: LOL not fair
[2019/03/09 11:16] cilla teebrook: where did we leave off last week?
[2019/03/09 11:16] TIGGS Beaumont: come to think of it why is Paela never nude upon arrival at LBSA?
[2019/03/09 11:17] TIGGS Beaumont: wait Cilla I need answers
[2019/03/09 11:17] Caro Fayray: she was briefly here just now:)
[2019/03/09 11:17] cilla teebrook: what was the question ?
[2019/03/09 11:17] TIGGS Beaumont: cill ais still here
[2019/03/09 11:17] TIGGS Beaumont: why suddenly again are we females nude on arrival in certain sims
[2019/03/09 11:17] TIGGS Beaumont: like LBSA
[2019/03/09 11:18] TIGGS Beaumont: when it had been greatly abolished before
[2019/03/09 11:18] cilla teebrook: because it takes time to rez MESH
[2019/03/09 11:18] Caro Fayray: is only mesh ones
[2019/03/09 11:18] cilla teebrook: period
[2019/03/09 11:18] Caro Fayray: yes
[2019/03/09 11:18] TIGGS Beaumont: yes, and always has
[2019/03/09 11:18] Caro Fayray: and the more there re the longer it takes
[2019/03/09 11:18] TIGGS Beaumont: but do you not recall when this problem was so reduced?
[2019/03/09 11:18] albertlr Landar: you can always wear some prim underwear.
[2019/03/09 11:18] albertlr Landar: maybe that would help
[2019/03/09 11:18] TIGGS Beaumont: so the answer is no answer?
[2019/03/09 11:18] TIGGS Beaumont: no solution?
[2019/03/09 11:19] Caro Fayray: prob depends how many there are rezzing?
[2019/03/09 11:19] TIGGS Beaumont: well not really caro
[2019/03/09 11:19] cilla teebrook: and are ppl complaining ?
[2019/03/09 11:19] TIGGS Beaumont: with your classic clothing no issues correct
[2019/03/09 11:19] Caro Fayray: right
[2019/03/09 11:19] Caro Fayray: is just mesh
[2019/03/09 11:19] paela argus: Osgrid has reached its own limits it is impossible to do better now and in the near future.
Its remains OpenSim and grid test, osgrid is much more stable than the 3/4 of the other private grids with the number of transactions that must deal osgrid per second, believe me osgrid is fine for the moment but can not provide better
[2019/03/09 11:19] TIGGS Beaumont: but as I said there was a period of time a bit ago the problem of mesh rexz almost seemed solved
[2019/03/09 11:19] TIGGS Beaumont: then wham back again
[2019/03/09 11:20] TIGGS Beaumont: okay Thankyou
[2019/03/09 11:20] Caro Fayray: as paela sasys it is a lot better than many places
[2019/03/09 11:20] TIGGS Beaumont: *sits back down
[2019/03/09 11:20] Caro Fayray: SL included
[2019/03/09 11:20] TIGGS Beaumont: Caro than most except Sunlught-Grid
[2019/03/09 11:20] TIGGS Beaumont: as far as I have seen
[2019/03/09 11:21] paela argus: luckily you have not known osgrid 3 years ago Tiggs you would have quickly abandoned!
[2019/03/09 11:21] Caro Fayray: well that is paelas grid so is bound to be exceptional:)
[2019/03/09 11:21] TIGGS Beaumont: Caro and it is *grin
[2019/03/09 11:21] Caro Fayray: :)
[2019/03/09 11:21] Arthur Numbanumba missed all that
[2019/03/09 11:22] George Equus: New mesh avatars probably behave differently than what was used a year ago?
[2019/03/09 11:22] TIGGS Beaumont: Arthur they will kill me if I repeat all that
[2019/03/09 11:22] albertlr Landar: and sometimes the mesh problems can be related to the viewer being used.
[2019/03/09 11:22] Caro Fayray: yes
[2019/03/09 11:22] TIGGS Beaumont: yes
[2019/03/09 11:22] TIGGS Beaumont: and I use FS
[2019/03/09 11:22] Tannoy OSgrider: hello everyone
[2019/03/09 11:22] Caro Fayray: specially old versions
[2019/03/09 11:22] TIGGS Beaumont: just wanted to know why the issue resurfaced
[2019/03/09 11:22] paela argus: is more a problem of code simulators mesh rezzing of a viewer
[2019/03/09 11:23] Total Sorbet: hi tan
[2019/03/09 11:23] Caro Fayray: hey tannoy
[2019/03/09 11:23] George Equus: Hi Tannoy
[2019/03/09 11:23] TIGGS Beaumont: Tannoy HUG hey
[2019/03/09 11:23] cilla teebrook: the past few years it's all been the same to me....
[2019/03/09 11:23] albertlr Landar: One important item to mention for this weekend.
[2019/03/09 11:23] Arthur Numbanumba: ;)
[2019/03/09 11:23] George Equus: I still use FS 5.0.11 and rarely have issues with naked avatars, mesh or not
[2019/03/09 11:23] albertlr Landar: DAy light savings time starts again for the US
[2019/03/09 11:23] TIGGS Beaumont: on 5 me either
[2019/03/09 11:23] TIGGS Beaumont: but yes I am now on the 6
[2019/03/09 11:23] Caro Fayray: oh
[2019/03/09 11:24] paela argus: Yes albert i have left osgrid for my project i can not be present in both project
[2019/03/09 11:24] Caro Fayray: when albert?
[2019/03/09 11:24] George Equus: DST grrrr
[2019/03/09 11:24] albertlr Landar: Sunday morning you need to spring forward one hour.
[2019/03/09 11:24] Caro Fayray: grrrr too
[2019/03/09 11:24] George Equus: Hi Rachel
[2019/03/09 11:24] Wizard Atazoth is Online
[2019/03/09 11:24] Caro Fayray: i get o muddled
[2019/03/09 11:24] rachel rose: hiyas
[2019/03/09 11:24] stiofain mactomais: yea albert and europe doesnt change for 3 wks
[2019/03/09 11:24] TIGGS Beaumont: Paela you will be so missed
[2019/03/09 11:24] Caro Fayray: wish tey wouldabokish it
[2019/03/09 11:24] Caro Fayray: abolish*
[2019/03/09 11:24] George Equus: EU discuss it...
[2019/03/09 11:24] Caro Fayray: yes re pae.
[2019/03/09 11:24] cilla teebrook: and NZ a whole different time
[2019/03/09 11:25] albertlr Landar: I am just glad my computer does it for me.
[2019/03/09 11:25] paela argus: after this change hour the hour will stop change Stio :)
[2019/03/09 11:25] albertlr Landar: Clocks in house is another matter.
[2019/03/09 11:25] Caro Fayray: my comp does but i dont
[2019/03/09 11:25] Arthur Numbanumba: lol
[2019/03/09 11:25] stiofain mactomais: EU are dumping it but stupid english brexiters want to keep
[2019/03/09 11:25] George Equus: Hello Wizard
[2019/03/09 11:26] TIGGS Beaumont: Wizard HUGzs
[2019/03/09 11:26] TIGGS Beaumont: I want that lil red man
[2019/03/09 11:26] George Equus: Hi Kevin
[2019/03/09 11:26] cilla teebrook: excuse me George.. what was that?
[2019/03/09 11:26] albertlr Landar: Yea, just mentioning that Daylight savings time is again this weekend in US.
[2019/03/09 11:26] paela argus: -*- loOl -*-
[2019/03/09 11:26] paela argus: i agree with uk in all parts about europe only
[2019/03/09 11:26] Kevin Glomas: hi george
[2019/03/09 11:26] TIGGS Beaumont: Kevin HUGzs
[2019/03/09 11:26] Wizard Atazoth: Greetings
[2019/03/09 11:26] George Equus: What was what Cilla?
[2019/03/09 11:26] Arthur Numbanumba: hey
[2019/03/09 11:26] cilla teebrook: lets try to play nice
[2019/03/09 11:27] Caro Fayray: hi kevin
[2019/03/09 11:27] Kevin Glomas: hi tiggs hugs
[2019/03/09 11:27] Kevin Glomas: hi caro
[2019/03/09 11:27] TIGGS Beaumont: um sitting in middle
[2019/03/09 11:27] TIGGS Beaumont: *ducks
[2019/03/09 11:27] TIGGS Beaumont: rachel hello
[2019/03/09 11:27] rachel rose: hi Tiggs
[2019/03/09 11:28] TIGGS Beaumont: May i steal Ubit's guy?
[2019/03/09 11:29] Arthur Numbanumba: ?
[2019/03/09 11:29] Arthur Numbanumba: lol
[2019/03/09 11:29] TIGGS Beaumont: lil red guy dancing Arthur]on fountain
[2019/03/09 11:29] Arthur Numbanumba: :o
[2019/03/09 11:30] paela argus: so, in order to respond to all the world, if you want osgrid to more powers it will be necessary to double the donations monthly, with the current monthly donation of everybody, it is not possible to make evolve osgrid in a higher level , which is altogether unfortunate
[2019/03/09 11:30] TIGGS Beaumont: no other business at hand?
[2019/03/09 11:30] cilla teebrook: [12:01:43] albertlr Landar: So thanks for coming and lets continue discussions of a possible effort to get people to reduce their inventories next week.
[2019/03/09 11:30] albertlr Landar: Well yea
[2019/03/09 11:30] TIGGS Beaumont: Okay paela, I was told at events by a few that we had enough monies in bank to be okay
[2019/03/09 11:30] TIGGS Beaumont: not to worry
[2019/03/09 11:30] Caro Fayray: ivebeen trying to
[2019/03/09 11:31] albertlr Landar: last week it was suggested the people could help Osgrid and its servers if they would reduce their inventories.
[2019/03/09 11:31] TIGGS Beaumont: I was asking when the next fundraiser would be and I was shot down unceremoniously
[2019/03/09 11:31] Caro Fayray: but as fast s i delete stuff i make more
[2019/03/09 11:31] TIGGS Beaumont: so
[2019/03/09 11:31] albertlr Landar: They can do that by putting their inventories into storage so to speak
[2019/03/09 11:31] Total Sorbet: 7577 items in mine :p
[2019/03/09 11:31] TIGGS Beaumont: what do we do to assure all the users realize and wish to donate more?
[2019/03/09 11:31] Arthur Numbanumba: <-- been cleaning
[2019/03/09 11:31] albertlr Landar: Set up boxes of categories for instance, and put unneeded things into them on your land.
[2019/03/09 11:32] albertlr Landar: Then back up you regions with those things into an oar.
[2019/03/09 11:32] TIGGS Beaumont: omg
[2019/03/09 11:32] TIGGS Beaumont: listen to us please
[2019/03/09 11:32] TIGGS Beaumont: an admin with know how just said
[2019/03/09 11:32] TIGGS Beaumont: we need more funds
[2019/03/09 11:32] TIGGS Beaumont: and we talk of closet space?
[2019/03/09 11:32] Arthur Numbanumba: albertir... understood... willdo
[2019/03/09 11:32] albertlr Landar: We always need funds Tiggs.
[2019/03/09 11:33] TIGGS Beaumont: okay so let's deal with that albetirl
[2019/03/09 11:33] albertlr Landar: And we accept donations all during the year.
[2019/03/09 11:33] cilla teebrook: and new ppl need to be advised by the Greeters
[2019/03/09 11:33] TIGGS Beaumont: how do we increase funds?
[2019/03/09 11:33] albertlr Landar: We have an annunal fundraiser for that purpose
[2019/03/09 11:33] Caro Fayray: if only every user donated a tiny amount each month we would be fine
[2019/03/09 11:33] Caro Fayray: but many many dont
[2019/03/09 11:33] TIGGS Beaumont: Ths is like pulling teeth
[2019/03/09 11:33] TIGGS Beaumont: what does OSG need
[2019/03/09 11:33] paela argus: the advantages of a small inventory:
the risks of stranded tp are reduced by 80%
the load avatar will be faster for you because in a tp the loading is handled like this: Region part object => inventory => avatar presence => you
[2019/03/09 11:33] TIGGS Beaumont: unding
[2019/03/09 11:33] TIGGS Beaumont: How does OSG attain that goal?
[2019/03/09 11:33] TIGGS Beaumont: by closet sace
[2019/03/09 11:34] TIGGS Beaumont: OY
[2019/03/09 11:34] albertlr Landar: I should mention that kayaker has donated a new donation sign to us
[2019/03/09 11:34] paela argus: pain foot
[2019/03/09 11:34] paela argus: ׺°”˜I'M BACK`”°º×
[2019/03/09 11:34] paela argus: ⊙BrB ⊙
[2019/03/09 11:34] albertlr Landar: which allows for donations to go directly to our paypal account.
[2019/03/09 11:34] TIGGS Beaumont: can you dispense that amongst us Albetirl?
[2019/03/09 11:34] albertlr Landar: let me see
[2019/03/09 11:34] Mirror Amorasi is Offline
[2019/03/09 11:35] Caro Fayray: is it better than the osg one we have now?
[2019/03/09 11:35] TIGGS Beaumont: Cilla, agree the new user needs to be informed
[2019/03/09 11:35] paela argus: huh she have give a new donation ?
[2019/03/09 11:35] paela argus: :-o
[2019/03/09 11:35] paela argus: nah
[2019/03/09 11:35] TIGGS Beaumont: however there is a danger to over saturating them with $$$$$ isues
[2019/03/09 11:36] cilla teebrook: ? $issues?
[2019/03/09 11:36] TIGGS Beaumont: money talk
[2019/03/09 11:36] TIGGS Beaumont: asking up front of newbs
[2019/03/09 11:36] George Equus: What is considered a reasonably preferred number of items in an Inventory, technically speaking?
[2019/03/09 11:36] cilla teebrook: i missed that class
[2019/03/09 11:36] paela argus: the box donation here is rebuilded by wizard me only
[2019/03/09 11:36] TIGGS Beaumont: before they have a shot to enjoy and discover
[2019/03/09 11:36] stiofain mactomais: yea one big fundraiser each year is better than constant nagging
[2019/03/09 11:36] George Equus: Mine is 17 000
[2019/03/09 11:36] paela argus: 14 k is correct
[2019/03/09 11:36] paela argus: after 20 k is ugly
[2019/03/09 11:37] TIGGS Beaumont: <-is ugly
[2019/03/09 11:37] George Equus: OK got it.
[2019/03/09 11:37] Caro Fayray: ooo u beat me george and i thought mine was bad:)
[2019/03/09 11:37] George Equus: thanks
[2019/03/09 11:37] cilla teebrook: 34K
[2019/03/09 11:37] stiofain mactomais: 4k here
[2019/03/09 11:37] TIGGS Beaumont: <-sits on hands
[2019/03/09 11:37] cilla teebrook: so i need to keep workin on it
[2019/03/09 11:37] George Equus: that's a goal to try to reach!
[2019/03/09 11:37] TIGGS Beaumont: I know what mine states
[2019/03/09 11:37] TIGGS Beaumont: i also know it is far worse than that actually
[2019/03/09 11:37] Caro Fayray: is all the plaza building and events that drives mine up:)
[2019/03/09 11:38] Caro Fayray: but im almost down to 14000 now
[2019/03/09 11:38] George Equus: That idea of boxing up is very nice.
[2019/03/09 11:38] Caro Fayray: yes
[2019/03/09 11:38] Caro Fayray: i can do some of that for sure
[2019/03/09 11:38] TIGGS Beaumont: as can I
[2019/03/09 11:38] albertlr Landar: ok sorry I was checking on paypal balance.
[2019/03/09 11:39] TIGGS Beaumont: Wizard, any prgress on the greeter situation?
[2019/03/09 11:39] George Equus: Is a mental process of not having all "at hand" all the time...
[2019/03/09 11:39] albertlr Landar: Our balance in paypal account is fine.
[2019/03/09 11:39] albertlr Landar: We have what we normally maintain to cover expenses.
[2019/03/09 11:39] Caro Fayray: agreed george
[2019/03/09 11:39] TIGGS Beaumont: at 7k yes Albetirl?
[2019/03/09 11:39] paela argus: but to low for osgrid evolute
[2019/03/09 11:39] TIGGS Beaumont: That was my next question
[2019/03/09 11:39] TIGGS Beaumont: and what about unforseen exenses?
[2019/03/09 11:39] albertlr Landar: No we maintain $3,000 a month in paypal account.
[2019/03/09 11:40] TIGGS Beaumont: should we not target at least a 6 month reserve?
[2019/03/09 11:40] albertlr Landar: We have close to $6,000 in bank savings account.
[2019/03/09 11:40] TIGGS Beaumont: well some are misinformed then
[2019/03/09 11:40] paela argus: if you wanna have a grid more power is 500 usd per month more in bill lols
[2019/03/09 11:40] stiofain mactomais: we are rich
[2019/03/09 11:40] TIGGS Beaumont: People were toutin 7k in funds wed
[2019/03/09 11:40] albertlr Landar: If you look at monthly break down of costs its about $1,000 a month
[2019/03/09 11:40] albertlr Landar: and we receive almost that same amount per month.
[2019/03/09 11:41] albertlr Landar: So we are doing better than we have in past years.
[2019/03/09 11:41] albertlr Landar: Nothing to fear as far as finances.
[2019/03/09 11:41] TIGGS Beaumont: I just feel uneasy about status quo mentality
[2019/03/09 11:41] Caro Fayray: k good but still not enough to improve stuff as pae said
[2019/03/09 11:41] George Equus: Agree on that
[2019/03/09 11:41] albertlr Landar: Well use that when we get around to fundraiser.
[2019/03/09 11:41] TIGGS Beaumont: Caro agreed
[2019/03/09 11:41] albertlr Landar: That will be later in year.
[2019/03/09 11:41] cilla teebrook: that HUGE size donation put it at a happy spot
[2019/03/09 11:41] Caro Fayray: ok yes
[2019/03/09 11:42] TIGGS Beaumont: *sighs okay you guys run the show
[2019/03/09 11:42] paela argus: the calculation of what osgrid can spend this fact only on what is given monthly it is impossible to spend more or bankroot in 2 years that's what I mean
[2019/03/09 11:42] TIGGS Beaumont: I just know emergencies
[2019/03/09 11:42] TIGGS Beaumont: etc occur
[2019/03/09 11:42] albertlr Landar: We always have ups and downs during the year, as far as donations. but there is nothing right now causing any problems.
[2019/03/09 11:42] TIGGS Beaumont: and scrambling after the cart is no fun
[2019/03/09 11:42] albertlr Landar: well again we have more for emergencies than we have had in the past.
[2019/03/09 11:42] TIGGS Beaumont: *sits back
[2019/03/09 11:42] albertlr Landar: also all servers being used right now are new.
[2019/03/09 11:42] paela argus: NOOOO
[2019/03/09 11:42] albertlr Landar: So the issue of old equipment is not in play
[2019/03/09 11:42] paela argus: damn
[2019/03/09 11:43] TIGGS Beaumont: smiles
[2019/03/09 11:43] paela argus: i leave before i go angry
[2019/03/09 11:43] TIGGS Beaumont: see Albetirl
[2019/03/09 11:43] paela argus is Offline
[2019/03/09 11:43] TIGGS Beaumont: Paela please stay and explain
[2019/03/09 11:43] cilla teebrook: hold Tiggs hand... we are okay
[2019/03/09 11:43] Total Sorbet: eep
[2019/03/09 11:43] TIGGS Beaumont: OMG
[2019/03/09 11:43] cilla teebrook: and keep thinking of idea for the next fund raiser
[2019/03/09 11:43] TIGGS Beaumont: one of the major issues causing Paela to be so frustrated is just this
[2019/03/09 11:43] TIGGS Beaumont: our server are old
[2019/03/09 11:44] TIGGS Beaumont: wak and corupt patched and patched and patched again
[2019/03/09 11:44] cilla teebrook: ah
[2019/03/09 11:44] cilla teebrook: you have information
[2019/03/09 11:44] TIGGS Beaumont: so has everyone
[2019/03/09 11:44] TIGGS Beaumont: he has been totuing this for months months and more
[2019/03/09 11:44] TIGGS Beaumont: publically
[2019/03/09 11:44] TIGGS Beaumont: Look
[2019/03/09 11:45] TIGGS Beaumont: I am so enamoure dof OSG
[2019/03/09 11:45] Total Sorbet: im confused. are servers old or new?
[2019/03/09 11:45] TIGGS Beaumont: I am still here
[2019/03/09 11:45] TIGGS Beaumont: through not as much as you all have been true
[2019/03/09 11:45] Caro Fayray: i thought they were new yes total
[2019/03/09 11:45] stiofain mactomais: im confused too
[2019/03/09 11:45] TIGGS Beaumont: but when knowledge seaks
[2019/03/09 11:45] TIGGS Beaumont: we should at least listen
[2019/03/09 11:45] albertlr Landar: The recent problems with assets servers were replaced with new servers
[2019/03/09 11:45] TIGGS Beaumont: when experience worries
[2019/03/09 11:45] albertlr Landar: You can talk with Dan about his if you wish.
[2019/03/09 11:45] Caro Fayray: ok so new then
[2019/03/09 11:45] TIGGS Beaumont: we should be a tad worried ourselves
[2019/03/09 11:46] TIGGS Beaumont: and we speak of trivial matters in the big picture
[2019/03/09 11:46] TIGGS Beaumont: I do Albertirl
[2019/03/09 11:46] Roland.Francis @grid.vibel.eu:8002 is Offline
[2019/03/09 11:46] Caro Fayray: all icansay osg issoo improved since i first came
[2019/03/09 11:46] cilla teebrook: maybe the less inventory will help that problem too.. who knows
[2019/03/09 11:46] TIGGS Beaumont: albeterl you just directly conflictind paela's words
[2019/03/09 11:46] albertlr Landar: Then there should be no confusion about that then.
[2019/03/09 11:46] TIGGS Beaumont: cilla it could he said so
[2019/03/09 11:46] TIGGS Beaumont: all said so yes
[2019/03/09 11:47] albertlr Landar: I am not aware of what paela is talking about.
[2019/03/09 11:47] Total Sorbet: well new asset servers seems like good choice given past issues
[2019/03/09 11:47] Caro Fayray: right
[2019/03/09 11:47] Total Sorbet: wise choice
[2019/03/09 11:47] cilla teebrook: share with us Pae
[2019/03/09 11:47] TIGGS Beaumont: albertlr do you not read him when he speaks?
[2019/03/09 11:47] Caro Fayray: pae left in a huff:)
[2019/03/09 11:47] TIGGS Beaumont: Paela left
[2019/03/09 11:47] cilla teebrook: it go's by so fast
[2019/03/09 11:47] TIGGS Beaumont: okay
[2019/03/09 11:47] TIGGS Beaumont: et me ask
[2019/03/09 11:47] stiofain mactomais: ive no idea what prob is
[2019/03/09 11:47] TIGGS Beaumont: Wizard are you here?
[2019/03/09 11:48] albertlr Landar: all I can say is there is no emergency right now.
[2019/03/09 11:48] Caro Fayray: in body yes:)
[2019/03/09 11:48] TIGGS Beaumont: albeterl agreed
[2019/03/09 11:48] cilla teebrook: i'll scroll back
[2019/03/09 11:48] albertlr Landar: I will talk with Dan and try to ge to the bottom of what is being said.
[2019/03/09 11:48] Caro Fayray: and thats good
[2019/03/09 11:48] TIGGS Beaumont: TY albeterl
[2019/03/09 11:48] albertlr Landar: But he has not told me of any real problem right now.
[2019/03/09 11:48] TIGGS Beaumont: I just think we all need to be on the same page
[2019/03/09 11:48] TIGGS Beaumont: at least those of us interested in this grid
[2019/03/09 11:48] TIGGS Beaumont: no?
[2019/03/09 11:48] albertlr Landar: Wizaard have you heard of any problems with the servers?
[2019/03/09 11:48] Caro Fayray: yes tiggs
[2019/03/09 11:49] TIGGS Beaumont: Ty caro
[2019/03/09 11:49] TIGGS Beaumont: so one question that needs answering is the public info on the funds
[2019/03/09 11:49] TIGGS Beaumont: in public it is being touted at 7k reserve
[2019/03/09 11:49] TIGGS Beaumont: i had heard far less
[2019/03/09 11:49] TIGGS Beaumont: less than half that
[2019/03/09 11:49] TIGGS Beaumont: which is it?
[2019/03/09 11:49] TIGGS Beaumont: how do we inform the public
[2019/03/09 11:49] George Equus: I can understand his frustration, mixed bag of old and new hardware, spaghetti code probably... need an overhaul after so many years in operation. But that is a huge and costly effort...
[2019/03/09 11:49] Wizard Atazoth: sorry, not that I have heard of currently. Dan would have more info on that.
[2019/03/09 11:49] TIGGS Beaumont: so they will hellp with new and greater donations?
[2019/03/09 11:50] TIGGS Beaumont: yes George
[2019/03/09 11:50] Caro Fayray: there is no way of asking for a donation on registration?...for inventory keeping?
[2019/03/09 11:50] TIGGS Beaumont: Albeterl perhaps hm wher eis the public asset info?
[2019/03/09 11:50] TIGGS Beaumont: the ledgers/books located?
[2019/03/09 11:50] cilla teebrook: what are 'new and greater donations'?
[2019/03/09 11:50] TIGGS Beaumont: where can we direct people to see for themsleves?
[2019/03/09 11:51] George Equus: This also implies a hired and dedicated person working on it, costly....
[2019/03/09 11:51] TIGGS Beaumont: cilla well when a newb comes in
[2019/03/09 11:51] TIGGS Beaumont: learns this grid runs on donations
[2019/03/09 11:51] TIGGS Beaumont: many wish to help with donations after little time
[2019/03/09 11:51] TIGGS Beaumont: many who already donate funds wish to increase theirs
[2019/03/09 11:51] Caro Fayray: if they realised a lot of it was necessary to keep their inventories they might
[2019/03/09 11:51] TIGGS Beaumont: where do we refer them to see the figures?
[2019/03/09 11:52] Caro Fayray: tell them they cant go shopping lol
[2019/03/09 11:52] TIGGS Beaumont: LOl caro
[2019/03/09 11:52] TIGGS Beaumont: I would place it in my hand out NC
[2019/03/09 11:52] TIGGS Beaumont: so they have access to it
[2019/03/09 11:52] TIGGS Beaumont: so where do I refer them Albetirl?
[2019/03/09 11:53] albertlr Landar: Ok TIGGS what are asking for now.
[2019/03/09 11:53] TIGGS Beaumont: OMG
[2019/03/09 11:53] Caro Fayray: i dont think many know that their inventories cause issues
[2019/03/09 11:53] TIGGS Beaumont: Albetirl
[2019/03/09 11:53] cilla teebrook: maybe a monthly update to the website donation page?
[2019/03/09 11:53] albertlr Landar: SOrry but I was sending a skype to Dan to get his feed back.
[2019/03/09 11:53] TIGGS Beaumont: where do I refer people in a NC to where they can see out financial s?
[2019/03/09 11:53] albertlr Landar: there in no change in the amounts each month.
[2019/03/09 11:53] albertlr Landar: its the same.
[2019/03/09 11:53] albertlr Landar: Where there are changes it is updated.
[2019/03/09 11:54] TIGGS Beaumont: albetirl where do I refer them? a url? a page?
[2019/03/09 11:54] TIGGS Beaumont: an audit?
[2019/03/09 11:54] TIGGS Beaumont: somewhere
[2019/03/09 11:54] TIGGS Beaumont: okay so where do i refer them to see the public financial s?
[2019/03/09 11:54] Wizard Atazoth: refering to the donation page? https://www.osgrid.org/donate.php
[2019/03/09 11:54] albertlr Landar: https://www.osgrid.org/donation_usage.php
[2019/03/09 11:54] TIGGS Beaumont: No I am referring to the books
[2019/03/09 11:54] Wizard Atazoth: https://www.osgrid.org/donation_usage.php
[2019/03/09 11:54] TIGGS Beaumont: the books you keep Albetirl
[2019/03/09 11:55] TIGGS Beaumont: the pucblic books
[2019/03/09 11:55] albertlr Landar: http://wiki.osgrid.org/index.php/Financials
[2019/03/09 11:55] TIGGS Beaumont: yayy Kisses albetirl
[2019/03/09 11:55] TIGGS Beaumont: Thank you
[2019/03/09 11:55] TIGGS Beaumont: I will place this in my handout
[2019/03/09 11:55] albertlr Landar: And I am about to update the financial s for 2018 once I complete the 2018 income tax returns for the IRS and state of Texas for the year.
[2019/03/09 11:56] TIGGS Beaumont: wonderful
[2019/03/09 11:56] albertlr Landar: The due date is May 15th.
[2019/03/09 11:56] albertlr Landar: I am not paid to do all this work, and I get it done each year for no pay
[2019/03/09 11:56] TIGGS Beaumont: *scratches my head*sighs 20 minutes LOL
[2019/03/09 11:56] TIGGS Beaumont: albetirl I know
[2019/03/09 11:56] albertlr Landar: Tiggs all our records are public and every penny donated to OSGrid goes to its operations.
[2019/03/09 11:56] TIGGS Beaumont: none of you get paid
[2019/03/09 11:56] albertlr Landar: No one is paid a penny.
[2019/03/09 11:56] cilla teebrook: WOW yes and thank you Al .
[2019/03/09 11:57] Caro Fayray: yt albert we do appreciate all u do
[2019/03/09 11:57] TIGGS Beaumont: and that is also to be included
[2019/03/09 11:57] Caro Fayray: andall o f u
[2019/03/09 11:57] TIGGS Beaumont: and is often spoken of in LBSA
[2019/03/09 11:57] TIGGS Beaumont: and at Events
[2019/03/09 11:57] albertlr Landar: I really do not appreciate your attitude nor your insinuations Tiggs
[2019/03/09 11:57] albertlr Landar: as it is no at the top of the hour. We can disband for today
[2019/03/09 11:57] TIGGS Beaumont: Do not think for one moment we do not realize how much each of you puts into this grid time/talent/heart wse
[2019/03/09 11:57] TIGGS Beaumont: we do
[2019/03/09 11:57] stiofain mactomais: im still confused what the prob is
[2019/03/09 11:58] TIGGS Beaumont: what insinuations?
[2019/03/09 11:58] TIGGS Beaumont: OMG
[2019/03/09 11:58] albertlr Landar: I will try once more next week to talk about sensible items.
[2019/03/09 11:58] albertlr Landar: good day
[2019/03/09 11:58] TIGGS Beaumont: Thnak you albetirl
[2019/03/09 11:58] albertlr Landar: Thanks for coming everyone.
[2019/03/09 11:58] TIGGS Beaumont: *stands
[2019/03/09 11:58] Jeff Hall: ty albert


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