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Saturday Q&A for March 16, 2019
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Author:  albertlr Landar [ Sat Apr 06, 2019 12:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Saturday Q&A for March 16, 2019

[2019/03/16 11:00] Lobo Estepario is Offline
[2019/03/16 11:00] LaNani Sundara: hmm lemms ee
[2019/03/16 11:01] LaNani Sundara: hmm think that one suits you :D
[2019/03/16 11:02] Koni Lanzius: oo ty sweetie
[2019/03/16 11:02] Koni Lanzius: bless your heart
[2019/03/16 11:02] Koni Lanzius: im rockin the pre-catholic celt shield maiden today
[2019/03/16 11:02] Koni Lanzius: put the shield away for the meeting
[2019/03/16 11:02] Caro Fayray is Online
[2019/03/16 11:03] LaNani Sundara: yes well try the thing a sec it fits i think, sort off
[2019/03/16 11:03] Koni Lanzius: for the Irish holiday
[2019/03/16 11:03] Koni Lanzius: hi Barret
[2019/03/16 11:03] LaNani Sundara: hihi
[2019/03/16 11:03] albertlr Landar: Greetings Barret
[2019/03/16 11:03] LaNani Sundara: looks cool yes
[2019/03/16 11:03] Koni Lanzius: hey Caro
[2019/03/16 11:03] Caro Fayray: hey koni
[2019/03/16 11:03] Caro Fayray: hi all
[2019/03/16 11:03] albertlr Landar: we give people a few minutes to arrive, so will start meeting shortly.
[2019/03/16 11:03] Caro Fayray: hi albert
[2019/03/16 11:04] albertlr Landar: hello Caro
[2019/03/16 11:04] Barret Darkfold: hi all ;)
[2019/03/16 11:04] Barret Darkfold: :)
[2019/03/16 11:04] LaNani Sundara: hi Albert :)
[2019/03/16 11:05] albertlr Landar: Hi LaNani glad to see you again.
[2019/03/16 11:05] Mirror Amorasi is Offline
[2019/03/16 11:06] albertlr Landar: I see you have your Green on LaNani
[2019/03/16 11:06] Koni Lanzius: cute lil outfit
[2019/03/16 11:06] albertlr Landar: We have the second largest parade today here in Savannah, but I am staying in my house.
[2019/03/16 11:06] albertlr Landar: As usual.
[2019/03/16 11:06] Koni Lanzius: wow
[2019/03/16 11:06] albertlr Landar: Too many people, and too many Irish.
[2019/03/16 11:06] Koni Lanzius: can u see it from your home?
[2019/03/16 11:06] Koni Lanzius: hahahah
[2019/03/16 11:06] albertlr Landar: And too many cops
[2019/03/16 11:06] Koni Lanzius: ahh
[2019/03/16 11:07] Koni Lanzius: are the irish rowdy?
[2019/03/16 11:07] albertlr Landar: They bring in the state police as well all the municiplaities.
[2019/03/16 11:07] albertlr Landar: slightly.
[2019/03/16 11:07] Koni Lanzius: rly?
[2019/03/16 11:07] cilla teebrook: scarey
[2019/03/16 11:07] Koni Lanzius: dude
[2019/03/16 11:07] albertlr Landar: we have people killed because they get drunk and fall
[2019/03/16 11:07] cilla teebrook: i'd stay home too
[2019/03/16 11:07] Mirror Amorasi is Online
[2019/03/16 11:07] Koni Lanzius: can u see it all form your house
[2019/03/16 11:07] albertlr Landar: no more
[2019/03/16 11:07] Koni Lanzius: lordy
[2019/03/16 11:07] Koni Lanzius: well there is no cure for stupid
[2019/03/16 11:07] albertlr Landar: I moved to the county, Port Wentworth, about 15 miles away.
[2019/03/16 11:07] Koni Lanzius: haha
[2019/03/16 11:08] Koni Lanzius: ahh
[2019/03/16 11:08] albertlr Landar: stay away is the best way to avoid stupid.
[2019/03/16 11:08] Koni Lanzius: indeed
[2019/03/16 11:08] Koni Lanzius: ~** HAHAHA! **~
[2019/03/16 11:08] Koni Lanzius: hachets also help (kidding)
[2019/03/16 11:08] cilla teebrook: howdy Caro over there
[2019/03/16 11:08] albertlr Landar: But the parade use to be down the street from my for about 25 years.
[2019/03/16 11:08] Koni Lanzius: i see
[2019/03/16 11:08] albertlr Landar: I went to the parade twice during that time.
[2019/03/16 11:09] albertlr Landar: only because some friends came to town.
[2019/03/16 11:09] Caro Fayray: hey cilla:)
[2019/03/16 11:09] Koni Lanzius: ahh
[2019/03/16 11:09] albertlr Landar: problem is it does not just end to day, it started yesterday and will run to tomorrow too
[2019/03/16 11:09] Koni Lanzius: huh
[2019/03/16 11:09] Koni Lanzius: lotsa green beer
[2019/03/16 11:10] albertlr Landar: people coming to town and drinking.
[2019/03/16 11:10] cilla teebrook: Paso Robles Pioneer Parade was the big deal every year for us 9000 ppl
[2019/03/16 11:10] albertlr Landar: and all the fountains are already green.
[2019/03/16 11:10] Koni Lanzius: u live in Paso Robles, Cilla?
[2019/03/16 11:10] Koni Lanzius: i lived there for a while
[2019/03/16 11:10] Caro Fayray: send in the leprechauns...they'll sort them
[2019/03/16 11:10] cilla teebrook: i grew up there
[2019/03/16 11:10] Koni Lanzius: haha
[2019/03/16 11:10] albertlr Landar: They tried dying the river once with lots of boats, did not work river was too swift it was just green strips
[2019/03/16 11:10] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[2019/03/16 11:11] cilla teebrook: left in 1969
[2019/03/16 11:11] Koni Lanzius: nice little town
[2019/03/16 11:11] cilla teebrook: what did you live there
[2019/03/16 11:11] Koni Lanzius: oh about 25 years ago
[2019/03/16 11:11] cilla teebrook: my brother still lives there
[2019/03/16 11:11] albertlr Landar: I was born and raised in Savannah too.
[2019/03/16 11:11] Koni Lanzius: hot in the summer ... whew1
[2019/03/16 11:11] cilla teebrook: mighty
[2019/03/16 11:11] albertlr Landar: yep, have to have AC
[2019/03/16 11:11] cilla teebrook: now I'm in San jose
[2019/03/16 11:12] Koni Lanzius: now Savannah sounds like a lovely place
[2019/03/16 11:12] albertlr Landar: and my Nest just stopped working, it would only heat.
[2019/03/16 11:12] albertlr Landar: took three weeks to get a new one.
[2019/03/16 11:12] Koni Lanzius: huh
[2019/03/16 11:12] Koni Lanzius: do u use a dehumidifier Albertir?
[2019/03/16 11:12] Dragon Moorlord is Online
[2019/03/16 11:12] albertlr Landar: nope AC usually works well
[2019/03/16 11:12] Koni Lanzius: ahh
[2019/03/16 11:12] albertlr Landar: I have one if needed however
[2019/03/16 11:13] albertlr Landar: well on to the meeting.
[2019/03/16 11:13] albertlr Landar: Now last week I was trying to address an issue that paela had asked us to talk about
[2019/03/16 11:13] albertlr Landar: That was people inventories.
[2019/03/16 11:13] albertlr Landar: Now we are not asking people to do away with their inventories.
[2019/03/16 11:13] Caro Fayray: yes:)
[2019/03/16 11:13] Koni Lanzius: i have been trying to reduce mine
[2019/03/16 11:14] Koni Lanzius: its kinda big
[2019/03/16 11:14] Caro Fayray: sincethen i hve reduced mine by 1500
[2019/03/16 11:14] albertlr Landar: But it seems that a few were making back up copies so frequently that is was cauing a drag on the servers.
[2019/03/16 11:14] Koni Lanzius: but is a slow task
[2019/03/16 11:14] Caro Fayray: ive boxed all my exhibits and put on a sim
[2019/03/16 11:14] Caro Fayray: and more to go
[2019/03/16 11:14] albertlr Landar: So we are only ask to please do that on a more longer period please.
[2019/03/16 11:14] Caro Fayray: it isslow yes koni
[2019/03/16 11:14] Koni Lanzius: ok
[2019/03/16 11:14] albertlr Landar: And for those that have a large inventory, to help you.
[2019/03/16 11:14] LaNani Sundara: i wish trash would actually... be gone without having to go on the site
[2019/03/16 11:15] albertlr Landar: You may want to move some of it you do not use to boxes, then back up the boxes using a oar back up if you ahve that available.
[2019/03/16 11:15] Koni Lanzius: good thought
[2019/03/16 11:15] Caro Fayray: iswaht im doing
[2019/03/16 11:15] albertlr Landar: try to avoid the IAr back ups as much as possible.
[2019/03/16 11:15] Koni Lanzius: ok
[2019/03/16 11:15] albertlr Landar: I am going to do that myself.
[2019/03/16 11:15] Koni Lanzius: ive only done one recently
[2019/03/16 11:16] Koni Lanzius: and that is enough
[2019/03/16 11:16] albertlr Landar: And one thing I wanted to suggest is that maybe someone would like to offer a warehouse so people that do not have access to the command screen could store their things until they needed them.
[2019/03/16 11:16] Caro Fayray: i think taht new ppl should be made aware of their inventories and the problems with large o nes
[2019/03/16 11:16] albertlr Landar: Just to helpt with what they carry around with them.
[2019/03/16 11:16] Koni Lanzius: Ive heard that moving the inv server to a new server will be an enormous job
[2019/03/16 11:17] albertlr Landar: yes it will be.
[2019/03/16 11:17] Caro Fayray: most have no idea the lag it causes to observers
[2019/03/16 11:17] LaNani Sundara: hmm that brings to mind the concept of a bank, like some games have, where most of the stuff is not in your inv but in a bank, which could be local on a sim
[2019/03/16 11:17] albertlr Landar: and we need to make sure that where it is moved to will be reliable and we can contact them all the time.
[2019/03/16 11:17] cilla teebrook: amen
[2019/03/16 11:17] albertlr Landar: yea, that was my idea.
[2019/03/16 11:18] Koni Lanzius: ive tried rezzing stuff on some storage sims and deleteing it form inv
[2019/03/16 11:18] albertlr Landar: And was maybe an idea that the board could discuss at some point.
[2019/03/16 11:18] Caro Fayray: yes is how i have reduced my inventory by 1500
[2019/03/16 11:18] Koni Lanzius: still working on that
[2019/03/16 11:18] albertlr Landar: Maybe set up a central sim just for that purpose.
[2019/03/16 11:18] Koni Lanzius: its nice to see it out
[2019/03/16 11:19] Caro Fayray: would that not still be on the server tho?
[2019/03/16 11:19] Koni Lanzius: maybe I could try to solicit donations just for that move process
[2019/03/16 11:19] Caro Fayray: and not on individual ppls ones
[2019/03/16 11:19] albertlr Landar: yes, but they could then be backed up as an oar
[2019/03/16 11:19] LaNani Sundara: a sim with tiny parcels where you can dump things in a box in
[2019/03/16 11:19] Caro Fayray: true yes
[2019/03/16 11:19] albertlr Landar: instead of individual IAR files.
[2019/03/16 11:19] Koni Lanzius: if you like, i can create media to post about the issue
[2019/03/16 11:20] LaNani Sundara: backing up that place could be a hug responsibility
[2019/03/16 11:20] albertlr Landar: We sort of have that right now.
[2019/03/16 11:20] Caro Fayray: specially for ppl who dont have their own sims
[2019/03/16 11:20] Koni Lanzius: a sort of public service announcement kinda thing
[2019/03/16 11:20] albertlr Landar: For those that have homesteads on some of the plazas.
[2019/03/16 11:20] LaNani Sundara: huge*
[2019/03/16 11:20] Caro Fayray: yes
[2019/03/16 11:20] albertlr Landar: They can place their items in boxes on them, and they are backup by OSgrid all the time.
[2019/03/16 11:21] Caro Fayray: dam i have to go sorry...rl is at me
[2019/03/16 11:21] Mirror Amorasi is Online
[2019/03/16 11:21] Koni Lanzius: bye Caro
[2019/03/16 11:21] cilla teebrook: enjoy
[2019/03/16 11:21] Caro Fayray: sorry guys
[2019/03/16 11:21] LaNani Sundara: byebye
[2019/03/16 11:21] Caro Fayray: cu next time
[2019/03/16 11:21] Caro Fayray: bye albert
[2019/03/16 11:21] Caro Fayray is Offline
[2019/03/16 11:21] albertlr Landar: Ok, Bye Carol
[2019/03/16 11:21] albertlr Landar: see you later.
[2019/03/16 11:21] LaNani Sundara: hmm.. i wonder how bad the lag will get on that warehouse
[2019/03/16 11:21] albertlr Landar: But anyway that is something we can talk about at the next board meeting.
[2019/03/16 11:22] Koni Lanzius: i would like to propose that we also formulate a meeting protocol of decorum
[2019/03/16 11:22] albertlr Landar: well if it was limited to just a single special plaza, would not be too bad I would think.
[2019/03/16 11:22] Koni Lanzius: reading the last meeting , it looks like some folks got pretty pushy and rude
[2019/03/16 11:22] albertlr Landar: yea, well I am afraid some people were misinformed.
[2019/03/16 11:23] albertlr Landar: And I want to address a few of those things too.
[2019/03/16 11:23] Koni Lanzius: ahh but they could show some manners and class like we all are doing now
[2019/03/16 11:23] LaNani Sundara: i wasn't there
[2019/03/16 11:23] albertlr Landar: We are not under financial difficulty now nor do we plan on that happening any time soon.
[2019/03/16 11:23] albertlr Landar: In fact we have now $5,685 in our saving account.
[2019/03/16 11:24] Koni Lanzius: your job is difficult enough without folks being rude and overbearing, my friend
[2019/03/16 11:24] Koni Lanzius: ~**YAY!!!!**~
[2019/03/16 11:24] LaNani Sundara: i hope not :) the last fundraisers went well i thought
[2019/03/16 11:24] albertlr Landar: And we are maintaining a balance of around $3,000 in our pay pal account.
[2019/03/16 11:24] Koni Lanzius: it went very well
[2019/03/16 11:24] albertlr Landar: With current monthly donations.
[2019/03/16 11:24] LaNani Sundara: *nods
[2019/03/16 11:24] Koni Lanzius: altho some folks were critical for their own reasons
[2019/03/16 11:24] albertlr Landar: We will again conduct another fundraising later in the year.
[2019/03/16 11:24] albertlr Landar: But not now.
[2019/03/16 11:24] Koni Lanzius: the next shall go even better, i dare say
[2019/03/16 11:25] cilla teebrook: Koni... check your video about the mention of funds.. does sound like there is a lack of.
[2019/03/16 11:25] albertlr Landar: We also have new donations signs made my kayaker Magic which are bring placed aroung the plazas.
[2019/03/16 11:25] Mirror Amorasi is Online
[2019/03/16 11:25] Koni Lanzius: what do you mean Cilla? whgat video?
[2019/03/16 11:25] albertlr Landar: Also we are planning on moving the assets, but the servers that are on there are brand new.
[2019/03/16 11:25] albertlr Landar: They were replaced when we last had problems with them.
[2019/03/16 11:25] cilla teebrook: kinda a welcome one
[2019/03/16 11:26] LaNani Sundara: new servers in Dallas?
[2019/03/16 11:26] albertlr Landar: The reason we are moving them is not because of any problem with them,.
[2019/03/16 11:26] Koni Lanzius: im sorry sweetie Im not following you
[2019/03/16 11:26] albertlr Landar: YEs.
[2019/03/16 11:26] albertlr Landar: Physical hardware was replaced.
[2019/03/16 11:26] Koni Lanzius: yea
[2019/03/16 11:26] LaNani Sundara: so Assets are still in Dallas but on new servers... ok got it
[2019/03/16 11:26] albertlr Landar: It was a physical problem in that one of the servers wore out
[2019/03/16 11:26] Koni Lanzius: this grid is going great, we are moving forward
[2019/03/16 11:27] LaNani Sundara: and other servers are in Montreal?
[2019/03/16 11:27] albertlr Landar: The one that was worn out was replaced, and the back up one that was not worn out was replaced also with a brand new server.
[2019/03/16 11:27] albertlr Landar: Just in case.
[2019/03/16 11:27] LaNani Sundara: so planning on moving the assets to Montreal as well or just using the new servers?
[2019/03/16 11:27] Koni Lanzius: highly logical
[2019/03/16 11:27] LaNani Sundara: in Dallles
[2019/03/16 11:27] albertlr Landar: But back to reason for moving.
[2019/03/16 11:27] albertlr Landar: No place at the moment decided.
[2019/03/16 11:28] Koni Lanzius: it will be a monumental task
[2019/03/16 11:28] albertlr Landar: It was decided that Montreal was not a good choice.
[2019/03/16 11:28] LaNani Sundara: *nods
[2019/03/16 11:28] Koni Lanzius: Terrabytes of data
[2019/03/16 11:28] albertlr Landar: Because we would not have the support there needed if there was an outage.
[2019/03/16 11:28] Koni Lanzius: yea
[2019/03/16 11:28] albertlr Landar: Plazas are a different matter, we handle those.
[2019/03/16 11:29] albertlr Landar: But there is technical help needed if an emergency happens to the asset servers right now
[2019/03/16 11:29] LaNani Sundara: true.. is a no hands on datacenter used by OVH and Oneprovider
[2019/03/16 11:29] Koni Lanzius: ahh
[2019/03/16 11:29] albertlr Landar: yea, they are pretty much we will get to you soon.
[2019/03/16 11:29] LaNani Sundara: i know.. i had one server there and didn't stay
[2019/03/16 11:29] albertlr Landar: Thats one reason we save money with them.
[2019/03/16 11:30] LaNani Sundara: *nods
[2019/03/16 11:30] albertlr Landar: So trying to find a reliable place that will be affordable.
[2019/03/16 11:30] LaNani Sundara: not Seatle
[2019/03/16 11:30] LaNani Sundara: just saying
[2019/03/16 11:30] LaNani Sundara: lol
[2019/03/16 11:30] Koni Lanzius: heh why?
[2019/03/16 11:30] albertlr Landar: we get lets say consideration now in Texas. Because some of the early developers of opensim have an interest in that facility.
[2019/03/16 11:31] LaNani Sundara: well bad datacenters, contantly under ddos attacks and slow
[2019/03/16 11:31] Manny Vel: Thanks to the meeting notice..... make that now ..... $5,695 :-)
[2019/03/16 11:31] Koni Lanzius: i see
[2019/03/16 11:31] Koni Lanzius: hey Manny!
[2019/03/16 11:31] Koni Lanzius: big hugs dude
[2019/03/16 11:31] Manny Vel: ;;; waves ;;;;
[2019/03/16 11:31] albertlr Landar: And they will do until we find another place.
[2019/03/16 11:31] Mirror Amorasi is Online
[2019/03/16 11:31] Koni Lanzius: didnt see u come in
[2019/03/16 11:31] LaNani Sundara: sounds good Albert
[2019/03/16 11:32] albertlr Landar: no rush, and not pushing us. and we also have to coordinate the move with melanie in Germany because of the special database we are now using.
[2019/03/16 11:32] Koni Lanzius: i see
[2019/03/16 11:32] Koni Lanzius: interesting
[2019/03/16 11:32] LaNani Sundara: seems the new servers in Dallas can handle things for a while
[2019/03/16 11:32] albertlr Landar: yes they can
[2019/03/16 11:32] Koni Lanzius: awesome
[2019/03/16 11:33] albertlr Landar: and we also have fail safes built into them now.
[2019/03/16 11:33] albertlr Landar: back ups to backups
[2019/03/16 11:33] Koni Lanzius: cool
[2019/03/16 11:33] LaNani Sundara: moving the assets would mean a long down time i am sure
[2019/03/16 11:33] cilla teebrook: wow here a server .... there a server
[2019/03/16 11:33] albertlr Landar: yes I am afraid so.
[2019/03/16 11:33] cilla teebrook: had no idea
[2019/03/16 11:33] LaNani Sundara: but Dallas is to expensive in the long run?
[2019/03/16 11:34] albertlr Landar: I was surprised at the cost of a one terabyte SSD now.
[2019/03/16 11:34] albertlr Landar:only $115
[2019/03/16 11:34] LaNani Sundara: cheap :D
[2019/03/16 11:34] Koni Lanzius: ya
[2019/03/16 11:34] albertlr Landar: Price is now half what it was last year.
[2019/03/16 11:35] LaNani Sundara: so... grid is good for now? servers and finances?
[2019/03/16 11:35] albertlr Landar: But if anyone knows of a good location for hosting our asset servers at a reasonable price with support please let Dan know.
[2019/03/16 11:35] albertlr Landar: Yes, Grid is in very good shape.
[2019/03/16 11:35] cilla teebrook: how many servers in total?
[2019/03/16 11:36] Koni Lanzius: and we can thank Albirtir, dan and the admins for that
[2019/03/16 11:36] albertlr Landar: Best check with the info on the web page.
[2019/03/16 11:36] cilla teebrook: or i guess locations
[2019/03/16 11:36] Koni Lanzius: we thrive as commercial grids crash around us
[2019/03/16 11:36] LaNani Sundara: :)
[2019/03/16 11:36] Koni Lanzius: :)
[2019/03/16 11:36] albertlr Landar: https://www.osgrid.org/donation_usage.php
[2019/03/16 11:37] albertlr Landar: there is the link
[2019/03/16 11:37] albertlr Landar: This is updated if any changes are made
[2019/03/16 11:37] Koni Lanzius: yea anyone that wants to know wehat financiial details can look there
[2019/03/16 11:37] cilla teebrook: i was thinking locations not what I said
[2019/03/16 11:37] cilla teebrook: sorry
[2019/03/16 11:37] albertlr Landar: that is both the financial usuage, and the servers that are used
[2019/03/16 11:37] albertlr Landar: thats where most of the expenses goes.
[2019/03/16 11:37] Koni Lanzius: anyone that wants to question how the money is spent can do so POLITELY
[2019/03/16 11:37] cilla teebrook: okie doikie mr Landar
[2019/03/16 11:38] cilla teebrook: zips
[2019/03/16 11:38] albertlr Landar: the only other fees are for like DNS services.
[2019/03/16 11:38] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[2019/03/16 11:38] LaNani Sundara: uhm
[2019/03/16 11:38] Mirror Amorasi is Online
[2019/03/16 11:38] LaNani Sundara: well asking questions about anything should be done politely
[2019/03/16 11:38] albertlr Landar: So does anyone have any questions about any of this please ask.
[2019/03/16 11:39] cilla teebrook: Pretty Please ... k
[2019/03/16 11:39] Koni Lanzius: well you should read the last meeting notes
[2019/03/16 11:39] albertlr Landar: If I don't have the answer I will find out.
[2019/03/16 11:39] cilla teebrook: we are all fucked up at time koni
[2019/03/16 11:39] Koni Lanzius: APPALLING rudeness going on
[2019/03/16 11:39] albertlr Landar: I unfortunately could not get to Dan right away last week, but he did confirm to me later that everything was fine.
[2019/03/16 11:39] cilla teebrook: so sorry for my input
[2019/03/16 11:39] albertlr Landar: you were file cille, no problem
[2019/03/16 11:39] Koni Lanzius: I'm sorry Cilla
[2019/03/16 11:40] LaNani Sundara: :)
[2019/03/16 11:40] Koni Lanzius: a time issue, you say?
[2019/03/16 11:40] albertlr Landar: It was just that Tiggs was jumping to conclusions last week about things.
[2019/03/16 11:40] cilla teebrook: sighs and tears .. hard to hate d
[2019/03/16 11:40] Koni Lanzius: yea, unacceptable rudeness going on
[2019/03/16 11:40] LaNani Sundara: ah that is what it is about, now i understand some remarks she made about finances elsewhere
[2019/03/16 11:40] cilla teebrook: sorry .. check out your video words ... on page one
[2019/03/16 11:41] Koni Lanzius: it isnt fair to you Albirtir
[2019/03/16 11:41] albertlr Landar: Raising issues when no issues were there to raise.
[2019/03/16 11:41] Koni Lanzius: you dont get paid to do this work
[2019/03/16 11:41] Koni Lanzius: what video Cilla
[2019/03/16 11:41] cilla teebrook: miss understandings suck
[2019/03/16 11:41] albertlr Landar: well I will say that I am facing surgery in a few weeks.
[2019/03/16 11:41] cilla teebrook: on page one of the website koni
[2019/03/16 11:41] Koni Lanzius: aww
[2019/03/16 11:41] Koni Lanzius: hugs
[2019/03/16 11:41] albertlr Landar: for a very large kidney stone.
[2019/03/16 11:41] LaNani Sundara: o ouch
[2019/03/16 11:41] Koni Lanzius: give me a link Cilla
[2019/03/16 11:41] Koni Lanzius: so I can understand you
[2019/03/16 11:41] LaNani Sundara: kidney?
[2019/03/16 11:42] cilla teebrook: alb you are under stress
[2019/03/16 11:42] cilla teebrook: osg.org
[2019/03/16 11:42] albertlr Landar: I hate this keyboard.
[2019/03/16 11:42] LaNani Sundara: :)
[2019/03/16 11:42] Koni Lanzius: yea he doesn't need any stress
[2019/03/16 11:42] albertlr Landar: Its ergonomic and makes me misspell everything
[2019/03/16 11:42] LaNani Sundara: good luck and best wishes hope your surgery will go well
[2019/03/16 11:42] albertlr Landar: But starting to have pain from it now.
[2019/03/16 11:42] Koni Lanzius: the video link sweetie, can you share that with me and tell me what you are trying to say about it?
[2019/03/16 11:42] albertlr Landar: It won't pass too large, so just moves around in my kidney
[2019/03/16 11:43] cilla teebrook: it's on that page .. just scroll
[2019/03/16 11:43] Koni Lanzius: I have heard thats as painful as childbirth
[2019/03/16 11:43] albertlr Landar: yea, I've been through it several times. Thats why I am no concerned.
[2019/03/16 11:43] albertlr Landar: not
[2019/03/16 11:43] Koni Lanzius: no, if you want to make a point to me, you give me the information I need to understand what you are saying
[2019/03/16 11:43] cilla teebrook: Gallstone surgery is easier
[2019/03/16 11:43] Koni Lanzius: its not clear
[2019/03/16 11:43] albertlr Landar: But I may end up missing some upcoming meetings if the pain gets to bad, as I have to lay down
[2019/03/16 11:44] albertlr Landar: Already had Gallstone removed.
[2019/03/16 11:44] albertlr Landar: Dr. that purchased my parents house was my surgeon
[2019/03/16 11:44] Koni Lanzius: o wow
[2019/03/16 11:44] albertlr Landar: Found out after I went to have stitches removed.
[2019/03/16 11:44] Koni Lanzius: so a known and trusted medical person
[2019/03/16 11:45] Koni Lanzius: gotta love that
[2019/03/16 11:45] albertlr Landar: we ended up talking about the house instead of my surgery
[2019/03/16 11:45] Koni Lanzius: heheh
[2019/03/16 11:45] albertlr Landar: I had no idea who the surgeon was as it was an emergency and I was out.
[2019/03/16 11:46] Koni Lanzius: huh lord
[2019/03/16 11:46] Koni Lanzius: poor baby
[2019/03/16 11:46] albertlr Landar: turned out he had treated my sister too.
[2019/03/16 11:46] Koni Lanzius: heh
[2019/03/16 11:47] LaNani Sundara: :)
[2019/03/16 11:47] LaNani Sundara: sounds like he's older :)
[2019/03/16 11:47] albertlr Landar: But I hadActaully was about my age.
[2019/03/16 11:47] LaNani Sundara: *nods
[2019/03/16 11:47] albertlr Landar: these days most of the doctors are about my age unfortunately.
[2019/03/16 11:48] Koni Lanzius: heh
[2019/03/16 11:48] Koni Lanzius: well the happy thing is your illness is very treatable
[2019/03/16 11:48] LaNani Sundara: idk i work for a medical school/university... we do make new ones lol
[2019/03/16 11:48] albertlr Landar: yea, just can't wait for it to be treated. really holding me back right now.
[2019/03/16 11:48] Koni Lanzius: however I'm surprised they dont do the ultrasound thing to break up the stione
[2019/03/16 11:48] albertlr Landar: I'v had this stone for over a year now.
[2019/03/16 11:49] Koni Lanzius: dang
[2019/03/16 11:49] albertlr Landar: They did laser on my right kidney last year, but declined to treat the left because they said it was stable.
[2019/03/16 11:49] albertlr Landar: but it has since started moving.
[2019/03/16 11:49] Koni Lanzius: huh
[2019/03/16 11:49] LaNani Sundara: it would probably leave chunks that are still too big to pass and make surgery more work
[2019/03/16 11:49] Koni Lanzius: yea true huh?
[2019/03/16 11:50] Koni Lanzius: im good sweetie
[2019/03/16 11:50] LaNani Sundara: if its in one piece its easier to ger
[2019/03/16 11:50] Koni Lanzius: how r u?
[2019/03/16 11:50] LaNani Sundara: get*
[2019/03/16 11:50] albertlr Landar: its a big one and a small one in the corner they showed me the cat scan.
[2019/03/16 11:50] Koni Lanzius: oops wrong window
[2019/03/16 11:50] LaNani Sundara: hmm as meetings go this one is very intimate ;)
[2019/03/16 11:50] albertlr Landar: yea, sorry
[2019/03/16 11:50] LaNani Sundara: no thats fine ALbert
[2019/03/16 11:50] LaNani Sundara: i mean not many people here
[2019/03/16 11:51] LaNani Sundara: :D
[2019/03/16 11:51] albertlr Landar: well as things have tened to wander we can disban for the rest.
[2019/03/16 11:51] albertlr Landar: tended
[2019/03/16 11:51] Koni Lanzius: ok
[2019/03/16 11:51] Koni Lanzius: thanks for all you do Albertir
[2019/03/16 11:51] LaNani Sundara: good luck with the surgery
[2019/03/16 11:51] Koni Lanzius: yea
[2019/03/16 11:51] LaNani Sundara: *hugs :)
[2019/03/16 11:51] albertlr Landar: you are welcome.
[2019/03/16 11:52] Koni Lanzius: sending you celtic healing energy! (im part irish meself!)
[2019/03/16 11:52] albertlr Landar: just this condition tends to make one not so enthusiastic about things.
[2019/03/16 11:52] LaNani Sundara: aww
[2019/03/16 11:52] albertlr Landar: thanks can use it.
[2019/03/16 11:52] Koni Lanzius: i understand
[2019/03/16 11:52] LaNani Sundara: it will pass.. well you know what i mean
[2019/03/16 11:52] Koni Lanzius: bless your heart
[2019/03/16 11:52] LaNani Sundara: :)
[2019/03/16 11:53] cilla teebrook: sends you the Cherokee love sign...
[2019/03/16 11:53] LaNani Sundara: cheer up :) hang in there :)
[2019/03/16 11:53] albertlr Landar: Oh won't get into all that happens after the treatments
[2019/03/16 11:53] Koni Lanzius: before we adjourn what do you think about my idea of meeting protocols?
[2019/03/16 11:53] albertlr Landar: So will probably not be here at all on the 13th the day after
[2019/03/16 11:53] albertlr Landar: meeting protocols
[2019/03/16 11:54] LaNani Sundara: *nods
[2019/03/16 11:54] albertlr Landar: for Saturday Q&A
[2019/03/16 11:54] cilla teebrook: and a Sargent of Arms
[2019/03/16 11:54] albertlr Landar: Guidelines so to speak.
[2019/03/16 11:54] albertlr Landar: To keep us in line.
[2019/03/16 11:54] Koni Lanzius: something that establishes a sort of civil discourse without anyone getting overly rude
[2019/03/16 11:54] LaNani Sundara: Koni as for meeting protocols, i think that is like trying to herd cats here :)
[2019/03/16 11:54] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[2019/03/16 11:54] cilla teebrook: Al just use your powers
[2019/03/16 11:54] albertlr Landar: would have to get a dog in that case
[2019/03/16 11:54] albertlr Landar: big one.
[2019/03/16 11:54] Koni Lanzius: ~** HAHAHA! **~
[2019/03/16 11:55] LaNani Sundara: but not being rude is just a general rule isnt it?
[2019/03/16 11:55] Koni Lanzius: yea
[2019/03/16 11:55] Koni Lanzius: but
[2019/03/16 11:55] albertlr Landar: yea.
[2019/03/16 11:55] albertlr Landar: one person at at time speaking might help
[2019/03/16 11:55] cilla teebrook: if someone is that bad ... send them home
[2019/03/16 11:55] Koni Lanzius: not allow follow that rule
[2019/03/16 11:55] Koni Lanzius: eject them?
[2019/03/16 11:55] LaNani Sundara: 1. thou shall not be rude at this meeting?
[2019/03/16 11:55] Koni Lanzius: form the meeting?
[2019/03/16 11:55] Koni Lanzius: huh
[2019/03/16 11:55] Koni Lanzius: thats a thought
[2019/03/16 11:55] Koni Lanzius: ~** HAHAHA! **~
[2019/03/16 11:55] cilla teebrook: if Al is speaking everyone else shut up
[2019/03/16 11:56] Koni Lanzius: i will ponder this idea
[2019/03/16 11:56] Koni Lanzius: yiu are right it needs more thought
[2019/03/16 11:56] albertlr Landar: and I don't mind seating back a letting others speak, I can avoid less misspellings that way.
[2019/03/16 11:56] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[2019/03/16 11:56] LaNani Sundara: getting me to shut up will mean i wont attend anymore ;p
[2019/03/16 11:56] albertlr Landar: But thanks for coming everyone, will consider all suggestions for the future.
[2019/03/16 11:56] LaNani Sundara: ty Albert
[2019/03/16 11:57] Koni Lanzius: no no sweetie thats not what I am on about
[2019/03/16 11:57] albertlr Landar: never would we want that, either shutting up nor not attending.
[2019/03/16 11:57] LaNani Sundara: i know
[2019/03/16 11:57] LaNani Sundara: i do not always wait for people to finish :) i know
[2019/03/16 11:57] Koni Lanzius: no no
[2019/03/16 11:57] cilla teebrook: this is suppose to be fun ppl and maybe last week won't happen again.
[2019/03/16 11:58] Koni Lanzius: thats not at all what I am concerned out
[2019/03/16 11:58] albertlr Landar: unfortunately a person who I will not mention has been misinforming or not communicating properly to people.
[2019/03/16 11:58] albertlr Landar: Hopefully we will see less of that going forward
[2019/03/16 11:58] cilla teebrook: so she is banned?
[2019/03/16 11:58] albertlr Landar: no just voluntary absence
[2019/03/16 11:58] cilla teebrook: shaking
[2019/03/16 11:59] albertlr Landar: well thanks gain for coming, and enjoy the St. Patrick weekend.
[2019/03/16 11:59] Koni Lanzius: you too my friend
[2019/03/16 11:59] albertlr Landar: Its much nicer here than here in Savannah, believe.
[2019/03/16 11:59] Koni Lanzius: bye all
[2019/03/16 11:59] cilla teebrook: I'm just too sensitive for this anger at other loved ones
[2019/03/16 11:59] Koni Lanzius: hahah
[2019/03/16 12:00] Koni Lanzius: ok
[2019/03/16 12:00] Koni Lanzius: see ya
[2019/03/16 12:00] LaNani Sundara: byebye
[2019/03/16 12:00] albertlr Landar: take care cilla, you ware always welcome
[2019/03/16 12:00] cilla teebrook: oh wow
[2019/03/16 12:00] cilla teebrook: did I say I was leaving
[2019/03/16 12:00] cilla teebrook: sheeesh
[2019/03/16 12:00] LaNani Sundara: mo but ppl were
[2019/03/16 12:00] LaNani Sundara: are
[2019/03/16 12:00] LaNani Sundara: no*
[2019/03/16 12:00] albertlr Landar: going to lay down for a while now, yea I think you were
[2019/03/16 12:01] albertlr Landar: bye
[2019/03/16 12:01] LaNani Sundara: *hugs cilla :)
[2019/03/16 12:01] LaNani Sundara: people are leaving see
[2019/03/16 12:01] LaNani Sundara: byebye Albert tc
[2019/03/16 12:01] cilla teebrook: ok ok .. I'm shakin a bit ...

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