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 Post subject: Saturday Q&A for June 22nd, 2019
PostPosted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:43 pm 
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[10:55] Sandy Beachcomber: hi
[10:55] Koni Lanzius: hi Sandy
[10:55] Sandy Beachcomber: hi koni
[10:55] albertlr Landar: not really sore, just strange.
[10:55] Sandy Beachcomber: hi wizz
[10:55] Sandy Beachcomber: hi albert
[10:55] albertlr Landar: Hi Sandy
[10:55] albertlr Landar: welcome
[10:58] Sandy Beachcomber: hi Pat
[10:58] Patnad Babii: hi everyone
[10:58] Koni Lanzius: hey Pat
[10:58] Kayaker Magic is Online
[10:58] albertlr Landar: Hi Patnad
[10:59] Sandy Beachcomber: hi Kayaker
[10:59] Koni Lanzius: hey Kayaker
[10:59] albertlr Landar: Hello Kayaker
[10:59] Kayaker Magic: Hello all!
[11:00] Patnad Babii: Hi Kayaker
[11:00] George Equus is Online
[11:00] Kayaker Magic: Mesh loading slowly today. Sandy you were a GIANT HEAD until a second ago!
[11:01] Sandy Beachcomber: a lot have seen me like that
[11:01] Koni Lanzius: hey George
[11:01] Sandy Beachcomber: scary
[11:01] Sandy Beachcomber: hi george
[11:01] George Equus: Hi Koni,
[11:01] George Equus: Hi all
[11:01] albertlr Landar: Hi George
[11:03] Lobo Estepario is Offline
[11:03] Lobo Estepario is Online
[11:03] albertlr Landar: Well things are slow all over opensim it seems according to Hypergrid business.
[11:03] Kayaker Magic: So what are we going to talk about today?
[11:03] Koni Lanzius: hey Moto
[11:03] albertlr Landar: Seems summer slow down is upon us for now.
[11:03] Patnad Babii: i finally did my appearance after 11yrs thanks to Moto :)
[11:04] Sandy Beachcomber: hi Moto
[11:04] Koni Lanzius: nice
[11:04] albertlr Landar: Oh you having a problem appearing?
[11:04] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: hi all
[11:04] albertlr Landar: Hi
[11:04] Patnad Babii: no its just i was Ruth until today
[11:05] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: ran in to a miss read or send o a hg issue
[11:05] albertlr Landar: oh, well congratulations on your transformation then.
[11:05] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: 13:07:19 - [ASSET DB]: Description 'SANA - Sam Suell & Agnes Chalet's Furniture
Shop, Snoopies (165, 210, 23) - General @ http://hg.osgrid.org:80' for asset 6b2
00983-4379-4330-bd4e-e948622a3af6 truncated from 109 to 64 characters on add
[11:05] Patnad Babii: ty im all pimped up now ^.^
[11:05] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: truncated?
[11:06] Lobo Estepario is Offline
[11:06] albertlr Landar: I checked over on SL, and picked up their free Diner they are giving to prime members.
[11:06] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: got to see witch end is causing this
[11:06] Lobo Estepario is Online
[11:06] albertlr Landar: But i have no where to rezz and eat there.
[11:06] Patnad Babii: looks to be an issue with your SANA landmark ?!
[11:06] Koni Lanzius: haha
[11:07] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: do not know yet
[11:07] Sandy Beachcomber: i had that issue
[11:07] Kayaker Magic: is that diner exportable to here? Without becoming a criminal?
[11:07] albertlr Landar: probably not
[11:07] Sandy Beachcomber: need to change description field to 126 chars
[11:07] Sandy Beachcomber: in fsassets
[11:07] albertlr Landar: Some had donated lindens however now at 25,000
[11:07] Sandy Beachcomber: ish
[11:07] albertlr Landar: now at 25,000
[11:07] dan banner is Offline
[11:07] Patnad Babii: to osgrid?
[11:08] albertlr Landar: at Embassy over there
[11:08] albertlr Landar: yes.
[11:08] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: there ask-ii name is a bit much
[11:08] Patnad Babii: neat
[11:08] albertlr Landar: We have an avatar with the name of OSgridInc Resident.
[11:08] Patnad Babii: i really like what it has become here and did not realize it was this active to tell the truth
[11:08] albertlr Landar: lindens donated to him goes to OSgrid.
[11:08] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: uggg
[11:09] albertlr Landar: Yea, we have events and parties all the time.
[11:09] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: is the consulate still in sl?
[11:09] albertlr Landar: Our Birthday 12th is coming up this July.
[11:09] albertlr Landar: Well the one i set up is still there.
[11:09] albertlr Landar: Same place.
[11:09] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: cool
[11:09] albertlr Landar: There is a sign by the entrance here about it.
[11:09] Kayaker Magic: Who pays for the land for the Consulate?
[11:10] albertlr Landar: i do, i donate that as my contribution.
[11:10] Patnad Babii: yes i really like the initiative, its great to showcase builder from here
[11:11] albertlr Landar: we use to have a presence with the Hypergrid Travelers group, but they closed up over there last year.
[11:11] albertlr Landar: So I set one up for us to replace that.
[11:11] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: o love dropping lindens there pay backs
[11:12] albertlr Landar: During last years Fundraiser we raised about $300 in lindens in donations.
[11:12] Koni Lanzius: nice
[11:12] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: woo hoo
[11:12] Kayaker Magic: I got rid of my store in SL long ago, still have items in their WEB store, lindens trickle in. I used them to buy a copy of Avastar recently.
[11:13] albertlr Landar: Oh
[11:13] Patnad Babii: how you like avastar, is it helpful in opensim?
[11:13] albertlr Landar: i have not looked at that in a while, is it improved.
[11:14] Kayaker Magic: I was forced to buy it just for one button: Save as Avastar DAE. Blender cannot save rigged clothing based on Ruth without that.
[11:14] Patnad Babii: im still a beginer at blender :/
[11:14] albertlr Landar: Oh
[11:14] Kayaker Magic: I'll learn how to use the rest of Avastar later, in my spare time.
[11:14] Sandy Beachcomber: lol spare time?
[11:15] Patnad Babii: is there any way to bring the assets from unity in here
[11:15] Kayaker Magic: I think I have some spare time scheduled for 2031
[11:15] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: make notes on goofs
[11:15] albertlr Landar: i think you can move assets from here to unity, but not sure about the reverse.
[11:16] Patnad Babii: unity is fbxs, c# scripts.. it be great if it could connect
[11:16] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: can unity be opened in blender
[11:17] Patnad Babii: its a program on its own not a add-on
[11:17] Patnad Babii: ther would need to be a Opensim SDK for unity i guess something like that
[11:18] Patnad Babii: github has "A Unity3D-based Viewer for OpenSimulator"
[11:19] Kayaker Magic: I think that means they can import OARs
[11:19] Patnad Babii: is the current code for opensim the one at bitbucket
[11:20] albertlr Landar: The one listed on the OSgrid website is the one for OSgrid.
[11:20] albertlr Landar: But the latest commit is experimental, beware.
[11:20] albertlr Landar: The official release is on opensimulator.org.
[11:21] Kayaker Magic: To get the sources from them use git clone git://opensimulator.org/git/opensim
[11:22] Kayaker Magic: I stay up to date with that and have regions here running very recent versions.
[11:22] Kayaker Magic: Including two regions running YEngine.
[11:22] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: how is that working?
[11:23] Kayaker Magic: It works great! But it has some restrictions that prevent it from being used much.
[11:23] Kayaker Magic: Like "don't use with HG" and "don't use with multiple regions per instance"
[11:25] Sandy Beachcomber: seems pretty major restriction
[11:25] Sandy Beachcomber: the hg bit
[11:26] Kayaker Magic: It is unclear what that means, like "don't HG to a YEngine region from an Xengine grid"?
[11:26] Kayaker Magic: or "scripts will fail if you do that"
[11:26] Kayaker Magic: I'm not sure what the problems are.
[11:27] Patnad Babii: hello Cilla
[11:27] Koni Lanzius: ive heard no on should jump with your original avatar because it damages your inv
[11:27] cilla teebrook: hello .. she whispers
[11:27] Koni Lanzius: hi Cilla
[11:27] Sandy Beachcomber: hi cilla
[11:27] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: ouch
[11:27] albertlr Landar: hello cilla
[11:27] Patnad Babii: woa pretty major if it damage inventory, is it only what is attached
[11:27] Kayaker Magic: I've been jumping between XEnngine and YEnging regions here in OSGrid with no avatar or inventory problems.
[11:27] Lobo Estepario is Offline
[11:27] Koni Lanzius: dunno
[11:28] Kayaker Magic: I'm afraid to bump an XEngine region up against a YEngine one and sail a boat across the border!
[11:28] Koni Lanzius: i think that was about jumping to other grids
[11:28] Koni Lanzius: hehe
[11:28] Sandy Beachcomber: lol
[11:28] Lobo Estepario is Online
[11:28] Koni Lanzius: yea some of my stuff seems to be borked
[11:29] Koni Lanzius: ok sweetie
[11:29] albertlr Landar: i would think the only conflicts would be the scripts between the two.
[11:29] Kayaker Magic: But I have a huge sailboat script that works in X or YEngine with no changes.
[11:29] Koni Lanzius: oops wrong window
[11:30] Kayaker Magic: The big changes to YEngine are low level design changes that fixed things like llSleep.
[11:30] Kayaker Magic: llSleep had a terrible design flaw that could bring a simulator to its knees. That is fixed in YEngine.
[11:31] WEARABLE RADIOOZ:
[11:31] Sandy Beachcomber: it should have been named stall
[11:31] Patnad Babii: i wonder if LL will ever reconsider the hyperjump possible
[11:32] Kayaker Magic: SL Merchants are scared to death of OpenSim and will never let LL open them up to us.
[11:32] Kayaker Magic: They think we are all evil copybotters out here.
[11:32] Patnad Babii: right
[11:33] Patnad Babii: i was one of the jumper that day
[11:33] Kayaker Magic: cool!
[11:33] Patnad Babii: it must have been a opensim <-> opensim really
[11:34] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: if they ever get the export system set up
[11:34] Patnad Babii: they brought us to a mostly empty sim and we came to OSGrid
[11:34] Kayaker Magic: If who gets what export system set up?
[11:35] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: sl and opensim
[11:35] Kayaker Magic: There are the export tools in the viewer.
[11:36] Mirror Amorasi is Offline
[11:36] Patnad Babii: who is Dan is he from SL too?
[11:36] Koni Lanzius: that would be great for the merchants, but LL would not be happy
[11:37] Kayaker Magic: Great for which merchants? The SL merchants mostly won't export their stuff to here if you beg them.
[11:37] Koni Lanzius: well, if they could get past their worry we would buy their stuff
[11:38] Sandy Beachcomber: a lot of them have been ripped off already
[11:38] albertlr Landar: But Kitely allows a lot of their stuff to be exported here.
[11:38] Patnad Babii: is neb still around?
[11:38] Koni Lanzius: Kitely market is going great guns
[11:38] Koni Lanzius: he is
[11:38] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: yep
[11:38] albertlr Landar: Nebadon is involved in things in Europe these days, he checks in once in a while. but is not active.
[11:38] Patnad Babii: is neb justin i cant remember
[11:38] albertlr Landar: no Justin resigned from the developers a while back.
[11:38] Koni Lanzius: https://menu.nebadon2025.com/
[11:39] Kayaker Magic: Justin was a developer, great at fixing bugs in OpenSim code.
[11:39] Patnad Babii: adam was involved here at all?
[11:40] albertlr Landar: Ubit who is located in Portugal is the main developer these days.
[11:40] Patnad Babii: ok these are the commit ive seen
[11:40] albertlr Landar: yea, Adam was to begin with, but went with Unity.
[11:40] Koni Lanzius: wow Pat you remember the old guard dont ya?
[11:40] Patnad Babii: ive commited a few lines back in the days
[11:40] Patnad Babii: the maturity bits when it came out
[11:40] Koni Lanzius: neato
[11:41] albertlr Landar: Some of the original developers still support Osgrid and opensim some
[11:41] Patnad Babii: seem a bit irrelevant now when thinking of it
[11:41] Koni Lanzius: Neb visited last year actually
[11:41] Koni Lanzius: was fun
[11:41] Koni Lanzius: year*
[11:41] albertlr Landar: Dan is our President, and is mainly responsible for OSgrid.
[11:42] albertlr Landar: But Nebadon sometimes comes back to assist.
[11:42] Koni Lanzius: a brilliant leader, too
[11:42] Wizard Atazoth: nebs around on IRC now and then. he helped us out when we were having a dns issue a few months back+
[11:42] Patnad Babii: no grid really check your Birth date anyways why filter maturity content lol
[11:42] Wizard Atazoth: helped us out*
[11:43] Patnad Babii: im going to set a region in here again today
[11:43] Koni Lanzius: awesome
[11:44] albertlr Landar: I have Nebadon's universal Campus hosted as one of my var regions.
[11:44] Koni Lanzius: why dont you grab a plot at the OSG12B and create something ?
[11:44] Patnad Babii: i have a chat bridge system i made back in the days, you can broadcast a meeting into SL kind of thing
[11:44] Koni Lanzius: yea its amazing
[11:44] Koni Lanzius: really?
[11:44] Patnad Babii: yea we could talk with a sim over there if we'd like
[11:45] Patnad Babii: throught a prim box
[11:45] albertlr Landar: sounds interesting.
[11:45] Wizard Atazoth: yea we have plots still available in the birthday regions if anyone hasn't gotten one yet.
[11:45] Patnad Babii: we did a meeting for AWS long ago there was maybe 10 ppl here and 15 in SL
[11:45] albertlr Landar: Are we up to the Third Regions yet.
[11:45] Koni Lanzius: hehe
[11:46] albertlr Landar: And SL allowed that?
[11:46] Wizard Atazoth: yea 1 and 2 are full
[11:46] Koni Lanzius: awesomes
[11:46] Patnad Babii: uhm... it may be against TOS tho
[11:46] Koni Lanzius: :)
[11:47] Patnad Babii: perhaps if i do a dialog where it say do you accept your chat to be recorded sort of thing
[11:47] Koni Lanzius: always a good idea
[11:47] albertlr Landar: SL is like East Germany use to be with walls
[11:47] Koni Lanzius: yea
[11:47] Kayaker Magic: The Sea Library does readings in Kitely and SL simutaniously and has a chat bridge for listeners to comment on.
[11:47] Patnad Babii: more like a full blown US state?!
[11:47] Sandy Beachcomber: lol
[11:47] Koni Lanzius: they are trying to keep the walls up
[11:47] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[11:48] Patnad Babii: ive been told a lot of arabic money going into SL these days
[11:48] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: shina one road one belt rules
[11:48] Koni Lanzius: really? why?
[11:48] Kayaker Magic: A chat bridge is just doing HTTPRequests, they don't know what you are using the calls for.
[11:49] albertlr Landar: Europe will be struck by a "potentially dangerous" heat wave next week, according to forecaster Accuweather, with temperatures expected to reach a high of 38 degrees Celsius (100 degrees Fahrenheit) on Wednesday and Thursday
[11:50] albertlr Landar: Just saw this on CNN. Better be prepared if you are in Europe
[11:50] Patnad Babii: youche that is hot
[11:50] Koni Lanzius: eek
[11:50] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: saw report in nuuk greenland 69 deg f
[11:50] albertlr Landar: We have already had our heat wave back in May.
[11:50] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: there max is 50 f
[11:50] cilla teebrook: was 105 here last week
[11:50] Koni Lanzius: too hot
[11:51] cilla teebrook: we lived
[11:51] albertlr Landar: good
[11:51] cilla teebrook: don't want it again of course'
[11:51] cilla teebrook: i have good AC
[11:52] Sandy Beachcomber: i have ice m/c for the gin
[11:52] Koni Lanzius: haha
[11:52] Patnad Babii: that will keep you cool
[11:54] Patnad Babii: so the next generation of vw plan on using something like HG
[11:54] Patnad Babii: you heard of VRBA ?
[11:54] Koni Lanzius: no, do tell
[11:55] Patnad Babii: " We belive that the future of VR space is in connectivity and interoperability between open social worlds. "
[11:55] Cataplexia Numbers is Online
[11:55] Koni Lanzius: love the concept
[11:55] Patnad Babii: sorry here is the full thing "High Fidelity & JanusVR We belive that the future of VR space is in connectivity and interoperability between open social worlds. That's why we partnered with HighFidelity and JanusVR on two groundbreaking projects:
OASIS- Teleporting between VR worlds
VRBA- virtual right transfer and currency across multiple VR worlds "
[11:56] Patnad Babii: vrba would be the blockchain thingny they made
[11:56] Koni Lanzius: ahh i see
[11:56] Patnad Babii: sorry not trying to push other technologies just keeping you informed
[11:57] Em Jannings is Online
[11:57] Koni Lanzius: no apologies needed, always fun to learn
[11:57] Patnad Babii: i'm Canadian in my nature to apologize :D
[11:57] albertlr Landar: yea, we cover lots of topics here.
[11:57] Koni Lanzius: heheh
[11:57] Sandy Beachcomber: lol Pat
[11:57] albertlr Landar: well I should mention i will not be able to host the Q&A next week.
[11:58] albertlr Landar: So if I can't find someone it will be canceled for next week only.
[11:58] Koni Lanzius: ok Albirtir thanks for the heads up
[11:58] albertlr Landar: Have a procedure to endure, so must excuse myself from the proceedings then.
[11:58] Kayaker Magic: How do you find the one Canadian in a room full of USA citizens? A: Go through the room stepping on peoples toes until one of them apologizes to you.
[11:59] Koni Lanzius: ~** HAHAHA! **~
[11:59] albertlr Landar: sounds like a plan.
[11:59] Sandy Beachcomber: lol
[11:59] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: o so true
[11:59] Patnad Babii: ahaha easy
[11:59] Kayaker Magic: It is noon, I have to run!
[11:59] albertlr Landar: What weights more a pound of feathers or a pound of lead.
[11:59] Koni Lanzius: hey i like polite. Polite is cool
[11:59] Lobo Estepario is Offline
[11:59] Koni Lanzius: bye Kayaker
[12:00] Patnad Babii: nice meeting you all here today
[12:00] Lobo Estepario is Online
[12:00] Sandy Beachcomber: tc Kayaker
[12:00] Koni Lanzius: is that a trick question?
[12:00] Patnad Babii: we shall meet again
[12:00] albertlr Landar: yea, for some
[12:00] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[12:00] George Equus: Thanks Albert. good luck next week then!
[12:00] Kayaker Magic is Offline
[12:00] albertlr Landar: thanks
[12:01] Koni Lanzius: whats the answer Albirtir?
[12:01] albertlr Landar: Take care everyone, thanks for coming this week.
[12:01] albertlr Landar: the both weight the same.
[12:01] Sandy Beachcomber: ty Albert
[12:01] Koni Lanzius: OOOOOHH
[12:01] Koni Lanzius: more fun stuff to learn
[12:01] Patnad Babii: can i get a bear
[12:01] George Equus: cu all Bye
[12:01] albertlr Landar: Because they are each a pound.
[12:01] Koni Lanzius: bye George
[12:01] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: they both don't float
[12:01] Koni Lanzius: i see
[12:01] albertlr Landar: did not ask which floated.
[12:02] Koni Lanzius: the questions was the weight not the type of gravitational pull
[12:02] Patnad Babii: you have a bear albertr, haha like the linden does
[12:02] Lobo Estepario is Offline
[12:02] albertlr Landar: a bear?
[12:02] albertlr Landar: like teddy bead
[12:02] albertlr Landar: bear
[12:02] Patnad Babii: yes don't you know about the linden bears
[12:02] Lobo Estepario is Online
[12:02] Koni Lanzius: thanks for a really nice friendly meeting Albirtir, love these
[12:02] albertlr Landar: or avatar?
[12:02] Patnad Babii: when you meet linden inworld they give you their bears
[12:03] albertlr Landar: must never have met one then.
[12:03] Koni Lanzius: bye everyone
[12:03] Sandy Beachcomber: bye Koni
[12:03] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: bte
[12:03] albertlr Landar: but would prefer lindens, from the lindens really.
[12:03] Patnad Babii: oh ive been to a few office hours this is were ive collected them mostly
[12:03] Sandy Beachcomber: nice to meet ya
[12:03] Koni Lanzius: ;)
[12:04] Wizard Atazoth: tc all
[12:04] albertlr Landar: Well i will say good bye to today. Take care. Stay out of the heat.


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