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 Post subject: Saturday Q&A for March 2nd, 2019
PostPosted: Sat Mar 09, 2019 12:56 pm 
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[2019/03/02 10:59] Koni Lanzius: hey George
[2019/03/02 10:59] paela argus: george hi
[2019/03/02 10:59] George Equus: Hi paela
[2019/03/02 10:59] George Equus: Evening all
[2019/03/02 10:59] George Equus: Koni, Cilla, Albert, Wizard :)
[2019/03/02 11:00] Koni Lanzius: i see we have a st paddy's day party coming up
[2019/03/02 11:00] Wizard Atazoth: Greetings ^_^
[2019/03/02 11:00] Koni Lanzius: im sure the belfast club will have some green beer
[2019/03/02 11:00] George Equus: As always :)
[2019/03/02 11:00] Koni Lanzius: :)
[2019/03/02 11:00] Wizard Atazoth: yea we have st paddy day party scheduled for the 15th for event plaza
[2019/03/02 11:01] Wizard Atazoth: I added it to mewe events to see how that worked.
[2019/03/02 11:01] Koni Lanzius: what do the modern irish think of the holiday btw
[2019/03/02 11:01] paela argus: have passed my week to resolve problem with grid
[2019/03/02 11:01] Koni Lanzius: i think he drive the celts from Ireland didnt he?
[2019/03/02 11:01] George Equus is Online
[2019/03/02 11:01] Koni Lanzius: tossed them off cliffs if they would not go catholic?
[2019/03/02 11:01] George Equus: Hi Moto
[2019/03/02 11:02] Koni Lanzius: heya Moto
[2019/03/02 11:02] Koni Lanzius: Saphy!!! yay1
[2019/03/02 11:02] Koni Lanzius: Total!
[2019/03/02 11:02] George Equus: Bit too much green for my taste lol
[2019/03/02 11:02] paela argus: do you have never think generate a script create by auth the events in mew and facebook wizard ?
[2019/03/02 11:02] Koni Lanzius: ~**YAY!!!!**~
[2019/03/02 11:02] albertlr Landar: ..
[2019/03/02 11:02] Total Sorbet: hi folks :)
[2019/03/02 11:02] Koni Lanzius: hi Total
[2019/03/02 11:02] Wizard Atazoth: mewe dosn't have an external api afaik
[2019/03/02 11:02] Wizard Atazoth: fb probably does
[2019/03/02 11:03] paela argus: arg shitty
[2019/03/02 11:03] albertlr Landar: ..
[2019/03/02 11:03] Koni Lanzius: heya Saphy!
[2019/03/02 11:03] Koni Lanzius: good to see ya, my friend
[2019/03/02 11:03] saphy riler: heya Koni
[2019/03/02 11:03] George Equus: Hi Saphy
[2019/03/02 11:03] paela argus: you crash all time in send notice albert
[2019/03/02 11:03] paela argus: -*- loOl -*-
[2019/03/02 11:03] albertlr Landar: Sorry had to relog, was getting chat lag
[2019/03/02 11:03] albertlr Landar: No I just relogged.
[2019/03/02 11:03] Wizard Atazoth: i have thought about that though. it would be cool to make an event board using an api. i may have to look into FB. i never used facebook :p
[2019/03/02 11:03] George Equus: Don't use FB, never have
[2019/03/02 11:03] Danger Lytton is Offline
[2019/03/02 11:03] Azi Az is Online
[2019/03/02 11:03] paela argus: have passed my week to resolve problem with grid
[2019/03/02 11:04] paela argus: mysql crash all time
[2019/03/02 11:04] George Equus: Should avoid FB altogether IMHO
[2019/03/02 11:05] albertlr Landar: well I notice the G+ has not shut down yet?
[2019/03/02 11:05] Wizard Atazoth: Greetings total and saphy
[2019/03/02 11:05] Koni Lanzius: hey Azi! nice to see you sweetie
[2019/03/02 11:05] Total Sorbet: hey wizard :)
[2019/03/02 11:05] George Equus: Hello Azi
[2019/03/02 11:05] saphy riler: *waves*
[2019/03/02 11:05] Danger Lytton is Online
[2019/03/02 11:05] Azi Az: Hi Koni :))))) hugsss
[2019/03/02 11:05] Wizard Atazoth: mysql working better now paela?
[2019/03/02 11:05] Koni Lanzius: huggies!
[2019/03/02 11:05] Azi Az: Hi George :))))))
[2019/03/02 11:06] albertlr Landar: And to mention to all the OpenSim Fest is going on now and tomorrow too.
[2019/03/02 11:06] Azi Az: Hello everyone :))))))
[2019/03/02 11:06] Total Sorbet: hi azi
[2019/03/02 11:06] Wizard Atazoth: Greetings Azi
[2019/03/02 11:06] albertlr Landar: hello Azi
[2019/03/02 11:06] paela argus is Offline
[2019/03/02 11:06] Lobo Estepario is Offline
[2019/03/02 11:07] Azi Az: Albertir :)))))
[2019/03/02 11:07] Azi Az: Total, Wizard, Cilla Saaphy :))))))
[2019/03/02 11:07] saphy riler: as far as I have heard G+ is still shutting down
[2019/03/02 11:07] saphy riler: *waves* Hello Azi
[2019/03/02 11:08] Total Sorbet: yh i think august was date they set
[2019/03/02 11:08] albertlr Landar: well we have MeWe up and running now for OSgrid.
[2019/03/02 11:08] Total Sorbet: might be wrong on that
[2019/03/02 11:08] Koni Lanzius: heya Danger!
[2019/03/02 11:08] albertlr Landar: August, I thought they said it would close in MArch?
[2019/03/02 11:08] Danger Lytton: hi
[2019/03/02 11:09] albertlr Landar: anyway we are ready for when it happens
[2019/03/02 11:09] Danger Lytton cleans the still wet concrete from his feet
[2019/03/02 11:09] Total Sorbet: ah ur right
[2019/03/02 11:09] Total Sorbet: march 7th
[2019/03/02 11:09] Koni Lanzius: hehe
[2019/03/02 11:09] albertlr Landar: Hi Danger
[2019/03/02 11:09] albertlr Landar: Oh 7th.
[2019/03/02 11:09] paela argus is Online
[2019/03/02 11:09] albertlr Landar: So by next week it will be gone
[2019/03/02 11:09] Total Sorbet: wb p
[2019/03/02 11:10] Koni Lanzius: wb Paela
[2019/03/02 11:10] paela argus: sorry my ssd crash in loop
[2019/03/02 11:10] albertlr Landar: Hello Moto and LaNani
[2019/03/02 11:10] Koni Lanzius: hey Lanani
[2019/03/02 11:10] Azi Az: Hi Paela :)))))
[2019/03/02 11:10] paela argus: hi
[2019/03/02 11:10] Cataplexia Numbers is Online
[2019/03/02 11:10] Ubit Umarov is Online
[2019/03/02 11:10] Azi Az: Hi Lanani :))))
[2019/03/02 11:10] Koni Lanzius: hiya Moto
[2019/03/02 11:10] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: hello
[2019/03/02 11:10] Wizard Atazoth: https://thehill.com/policy/technology/4 ... ts-april-2
[2019/03/02 11:11] saphy riler: I heard April 2nd also
[2019/03/02 11:11] Koni Lanzius: hi Xaria, whitestar
[2019/03/02 11:11] Total Sorbet: https://venturebeat.com/2018/12/20/goog ... ch-7-2019/
[2019/03/02 11:11] paela argus: yay finally close that shitty google plus
[2019/03/02 11:11] Total Sorbet: hehe
[2019/03/02 11:11] albertlr Landar: Oh so now its April...
[2019/03/02 11:11] Wizard Atazoth: ahh shutting down in stages
[2019/03/02 11:11] LaNani Sundara is Offline
[2019/03/02 11:11] albertlr Landar: I won't hold my breath, in case they make another change.
[2019/03/02 11:11] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: did china do that
[2019/03/02 11:12] LaNani Sundara is Online
[2019/03/02 11:12] albertlr Landar: maybe some of the hackers want more time to steal peoples data first.
[2019/03/02 11:12] Wizard Atazoth: i wont miss google api
[2019/03/02 11:12] Total Sorbet: lol albert!
[2019/03/02 11:12] Koni Lanzius: :)
[2019/03/02 11:12] Wizard Atazoth: haha
[2019/03/02 11:13] paela argus: google have never protect any datas of users google plus is not a problem alone is all services of google the problem :D
[2019/03/02 11:13] George Equus: Hi Danger, LaNani, Xaria, WhiteStar
[2019/03/02 11:13] WhiteStar Magic: gee wiz, Firestorm had a nasty crash
[2019/03/02 11:13] Xaria Aubrey: hi George
[2019/03/02 11:13] Koni Lanzius: hi Lucky!!
[2019/03/02 11:13] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: google just the new name for AOL
[2019/03/02 11:13] George Equus: Hi Lucky
[2019/03/02 11:13] Azi Az: Hi Lucky :)))))))
[2019/03/02 11:13] Wizard Atazoth: wb whitestar
[2019/03/02 11:14] LaNani Sundara: hmm geez lovely crash and now messed up animations
[2019/03/02 11:14] LaNani Sundara: hihi
[2019/03/02 11:14] Lucky Chiung: hello everyone
[2019/03/02 11:14] WhiteStar Magic: tanks Wizard
[2019/03/02 11:14] Koni Lanzius: greetings, m'dear
[2019/03/02 11:14] Wizard Atazoth: animation musical chairs. dont know what will play
[2019/03/02 11:14] albertlr Landar: hello WhiteStar
[2019/03/02 11:14] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: i crash and on relog im wearing all my avatars
[2019/03/02 11:14] paela argus: Whitestart hello you longue time not see you
[2019/03/02 11:14] WhiteStar Magic: Switched to teh beta version of FS to see.... kinda weird lately
[2019/03/02 11:14] paela argus: star*
[2019/03/02 11:14] George Equus: Still on FS 5.0.11 it hardly ever crash on me
[2019/03/02 11:15] WhiteStar Magic: Hi Folks LOL yep, been a while
[2019/03/02 11:15] WhiteStar Magic: HUGZ Paela !
[2019/03/02 11:15] Koni Lanzius: :)
[2019/03/02 11:15] paela argus: i use Firestorm 5.1.7 (55786)
[2019/03/02 11:15] Azi Az: Hi Whitestar :))))
[2019/03/02 11:15] paela argus: never any problem with
[2019/03/02 11:15] Lucky Chiung: phewww
[2019/03/02 11:15] Lucky Chiung: oops
[2019/03/02 11:15] saphy riler: *waves at white* Man I feel like Im in the presence of a legend
[2019/03/02 11:15] LaNani Sundara: i use 5.0.7
[2019/03/02 11:15] WhiteStar Magic: listen... anyone here running a StandAlone with XAMPP - Mysql/Maria DB the latest versions ?
[2019/03/02 11:15] George Equus: Maybe time to update a noch on FS then :)
[2019/03/02 11:16] albertlr Landar: yea, I am
[2019/03/02 11:16] paela argus: eek nop my grid use all lasted but is not in standalone
[2019/03/02 11:16] Wizard Atazoth: the new fs has a few patches for hg groups i have noticed... or maybe hack patches
[2019/03/02 11:16] albertlr Landar: don't have it running at the moment
[2019/03/02 11:16] WhiteStar Magic: having any issues with Maria DB storing blobs ?
[2019/03/02 11:16] albertlr Landar: not that I noticed.
[2019/03/02 11:16] albertlr Landar: And I do have lots of data in that.
[2019/03/02 11:17] albertlr Landar: I raised my limits on the settings if I remember
[2019/03/02 11:17] WhiteStar Magic: I put diagnostrics on the DB and there are a LOT of errors being generated and tables being overly reloaded slowing everything horridly
[2019/03/02 11:17] albertlr Landar: hum
[2019/03/02 11:17] LaNani Sundara: try asking at tuesday's Dev meeting
[2019/03/02 11:17] paela argus: you need use old think
[2019/03/02 11:17] paela argus: moment
[2019/03/02 11:17] paela argus: please
[2019/03/02 11:17] WhiteStar Magic: I'm now running using the MY-HUGE model and tweaked out a touch for logging
[2019/03/02 11:17] albertlr Landar: Mine is standalone is the last diva release.
[2019/03/02 11:18] paela argus: add this in end of mysql config simu Old Guids=true;
[2019/03/02 11:18] George Equus: Is it safe to update FS without removing previous version these days?
[2019/03/02 11:18] Koni Lanzius: welcome free
[2019/03/02 11:18] George Equus: Hi FreeLoader
[2019/03/02 11:18] WhiteStar Magic: I've reloaded all my sims & inventories so the DB got massively HUGE....
[2019/03/02 11:18] WhiteStar Magic: Old GUIDS is set
[2019/03/02 11:19] FreeLoader Hobo: :)
[2019/03/02 11:19] WhiteStar Magic: that is nothing to do with it, transactions are delayed due to coding issues from OS
[2019/03/02 11:19] paela argus: never tried StandAlone
[2019/03/02 11:19] paela argus: maybe you need ask the mantis ?
[2019/03/02 11:20] WhiteStar Magic: I do not get online that much.... A Mantis from me would likely get ignored anyways
[2019/03/02 11:21] LaNani Sundara: nice chair Optimus Wiz
[2019/03/02 11:21] paela argus: moment i tp the main dev
[2019/03/02 11:21] albertlr Landar: hello ubit, welcome
[2019/03/02 11:21] George Equus: Hi Ubit
[2019/03/02 11:21] Koni Lanzius: hi Ubit
[2019/03/02 11:21] Azi Az: Ubitinho :)))))
[2019/03/02 11:21] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: 1 question how many servers is osgrid on?
Answer: Plazas are on several servers in Canada, Assets are located still in Texas.
https://www.osgrid.org/donation_usage.php
[2019/03/02 11:21] WhiteStar Magic: I've been "offline" pretty much for 4 years now... I've bought a very remote rural property in North East Ontario Canada and built a hyper-efficient off-grid cabin which has been keeping me overly busy BUT on coldest days I needed to furtle around again.
[2019/03/02 11:21] Total Sorbet: ubii
[2019/03/02 11:21] WhiteStar Magic: Hey UBIT !!!
[2019/03/02 11:22] Ubit Umarov: hi
[2019/03/02 11:22] paela argus: can you done again your question white
[2019/03/02 11:22] paela argus: :-P~~
[2019/03/02 11:22] albertlr Landar: well glad you can come back to us occasionally
[2019/03/02 11:22] LaNani Sundara: so :) whats on the agenda Albert :D
[2019/03/02 11:22] paela argus: need call urgency real
[2019/03/02 11:22] albertlr Landar: anything anyone wishes to discuss
[2019/03/02 11:22] paela argus: ⊙BrB ⊙
[2019/03/02 11:23] WhiteStar Magic: Ubit: Anyone fiddling around with the DB code in OS ? Many errors generated by latest XAMPP/Maria DB
[2019/03/02 11:23] Ubit Umarov: whne needed
[2019/03/02 11:23] WhiteStar Magic: Several errors related to Blob management / handling (loading) & overly working teh tables without valid indexes
[2019/03/02 11:24] Ubit Umarov: outch
[2019/03/02 11:24] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: saw a report some db was hacked is this confirmed
[2019/03/02 11:24] albertlr Landar: now I don't have the latest XAMPP/MariaDB mine is at least a year old
[2019/03/02 11:24] Ubit Umarov: cna you mantis those issues ?
[2019/03/02 11:24] WhiteStar Magic: several OLD functions being used are now headed to deprecation so...
[2019/03/02 11:25] Ubit Umarov: http://opensimulator.org/mantis/main_page.php
[2019/03/02 11:25] Ubit Umarov: yeah the usual fun
[2019/03/02 11:25] WhiteStar Magic: Ohh I remember Ubit ! Still have an account (maybe) unless someone went & deleted it
[2019/03/02 11:26] Ubit Umarov: machine did moved.. a bit, somethings may had got lost :)
[2019/03/02 11:26] dan banner is Online
[2019/03/02 11:26] Ubit Umarov: but no one is complaining about mysql/maria there
[2019/03/02 11:27] LaNani Sundara: ok got to go :)
[2019/03/02 11:27] Koni Lanzius: bye lani
[2019/03/02 11:27] saphy riler: seya Lani
[2019/03/02 11:27] albertlr Landar: ok bye LaNani
[2019/03/02 11:27] albertlr Landar: take care
[2019/03/02 11:27] Ubit Umarov: most common issue is utf8 must be 3 bytes on mariadb
[2019/03/02 11:27] Ubit Umarov: to match mysql and our old code fo rit
[2019/03/02 11:28] WhiteStar Magic: char set is OK.... it's a lot of other stuff, unfortunately it's on another machine in another location so I cannot post the details
[2019/03/02 11:28] Ubit Umarov: and good to see you again whiteStar
[2019/03/02 11:28] Ubit Umarov: :)
[2019/03/02 11:29] saphy riler: whats Osgrid growth look like this last year?
[2019/03/02 11:29] saphy riler: Im curious
[2019/03/02 11:29] Xaria Aubrey: tc all
[2019/03/02 11:29] Koni Lanzius: bye
[2019/03/02 11:29] albertlr Landar: well we have had some growth, mainly because of the cloing of InWorldz
[2019/03/02 11:29] albertlr Landar: closing
[2019/03/02 11:29] albertlr Landar: and its other incarnation.
[2019/03/02 11:29] Ubit Umarov: double closing now grrr
[2019/03/02 11:30] Koni Lanzius: has the Metro restructure affected us?
[2019/03/02 11:30] Koni Lanzius: some think many will flee to the free verse
[2019/03/02 11:31] albertlr Landar: well there has also been growth with OutWorldz users too.
[2019/03/02 11:31] Koni Lanzius: ah yes
[2019/03/02 11:31] albertlr Landar: new independent grids there.
[2019/03/02 11:31] Koni Lanzius: lots of new grids popping up
[2019/03/02 11:32] saphy riler: over 500
[2019/03/02 11:32] saphy riler: and growing
[2019/03/02 11:32] Koni Lanzius: even Yadni Mond has his own grid nor
[2019/03/02 11:32] Mirror Amorasi is Online
[2019/03/02 11:32] Koni Lanzius: now*
[2019/03/02 11:32] albertlr Landar: oh really
[2019/03/02 11:32] Koni Lanzius: yea
[2019/03/02 11:32] Koni Lanzius: called Tag Grid i think
[2019/03/02 11:32] WhiteStar Magic: Also was just reading on Melanie's & Diva's efforts on adding an "in-betweener" to take OpenSim to VR
[2019/03/02 11:33] saphy riler: like Sinespace?
[2019/03/02 11:33] paela argus: well the new viewer can not be apply in OSgrid
[2019/03/02 11:33] albertlr Landar: You know there is a Free Arcadia Asylum Library on Second life, and they now have lots of Yadnis things there, and other free creators.
[2019/03/02 11:33] Koni Lanzius: cool
[2019/03/02 11:33] albertlr Landar: Biggest problem is very bad lag
[2019/03/02 11:33] Koni Lanzius: ahh yes
[2019/03/02 11:34] albertlr Landar: as usual
[2019/03/02 11:34] Koni Lanzius: he likes prim building over mesh I think
[2019/03/02 11:34] albertlr Landar: yea
[2019/03/02 11:34] albertlr Landar: and I do too usually.
[2019/03/02 11:34] Koni Lanzius: me too
[2019/03/02 11:34] paela argus: osgrid have win 4391 account at this day about the last year at same month/day
[2019/03/02 11:34] paela argus: for answer
[2019/03/02 11:34] Koni Lanzius: oh nice
[2019/03/02 11:34] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: yesterday ping climbing at the fest
[2019/03/02 11:35] Koni Lanzius: thanks Paela
[2019/03/02 11:35] saphy riler: well personally stacking mesh avatars on top of each other with mesh clothing and than have mesh buildings....its going to lag ya
[2019/03/02 11:35] Ubit Umarov: opensimfest was under DDOS
[2019/03/02 11:35] Koni Lanzius: yea
[2019/03/02 11:35] WhiteStar Magic: Actually, that is partly why I put an SA backup... as I want to convert some Prim Builds to Mesh and such tools are now available.
[2019/03/02 11:35] Ubit Umarov: or its provider was..
[2019/03/02 11:35] Koni Lanzius: that is so crazy
[2019/03/02 11:35] Ubit Umarov: lets hope its better today
[2019/03/02 11:36] Koni Lanzius: yes
[2019/03/02 11:36] Ubit Umarov: they are moving it
[2019/03/02 11:36] Koni Lanzius: i see
[2019/03/02 11:36] Ubit Umarov: will be back in half a hour or so
[2019/03/02 11:36] dan banner is Offline
[2019/03/02 11:36] Azi Az: yes we wre there and we couldnt move
[2019/03/02 11:36] dan banner is Online
[2019/03/02 11:36] albertlr Landar: well I know they had a presentation about jopensim scheduled today for 11
[2019/03/02 11:36] saphy riler: Do you know what ALWAYS brings me back to Osgrid
[2019/03/02 11:37] Koni Lanzius: interesting
[2019/03/02 11:37] Koni Lanzius: wut
[2019/03/02 11:37] saphy riler: is the open community Osgrid offers and has since the begginning
[2019/03/02 11:37] Koni Lanzius: yea I love this place too
[2019/03/02 11:37] saphy riler: I would hate to see that lost with the charging of everything
[2019/03/02 11:37] albertlr Landar: well we have it in our by laws now.
[2019/03/02 11:37] WhiteStar Magic: sure changed since I first logged in here back in really early days LOL
[2019/03/02 11:37] Koni Lanzius: agreed
[2019/03/02 11:38] WhiteStar Magic: and no more boot up the backside !
[2019/03/02 11:38] Koni Lanzius: hehehe
[2019/03/02 11:38] saphy riler: I hope we move to a more FREE open comunity again
[2019/03/02 11:38] Koni Lanzius: sounds like an interesting story behind that
[2019/03/02 11:38] Mirror Amorasi is Offline
[2019/03/02 11:38] albertlr Landar: the first time I logged into OSgrid, I was in their first building, and it took me one hour to get across the floor to get clothes.
[2019/03/02 11:38] Koni Lanzius: YEA!
[2019/03/02 11:38] saphy riler: freebie stores everywhere because people liked sharing
[2019/03/02 11:38] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: i saw people with complexity in the 500,000 killing it for every one
[2019/03/02 11:38] Koni Lanzius: I totally agree Saphy!
[2019/03/02 11:38] WhiteStar Magic: to that Big ORANGE Warehouse of free horrors ! LOL
[2019/03/02 11:39] albertlr Landar: yes
[2019/03/02 11:39] Matilda Charron is Online
[2019/03/02 11:39] WhiteStar Magic: what ever happened to him ?
[2019/03/02 11:39] albertlr Landar: well Sarah has been working on making things on Wright easier on prims and scripts.
[2019/03/02 11:39] saphy riler: I think Osgriid could have huge growth if we moved away from charging for land, charging for clothes, charging for things people need to be here
[2019/03/02 11:40] Koni Lanzius: orange warehouse?
[2019/03/02 11:40] Koni Lanzius: thats not even up for consideration, is it?
[2019/03/02 11:41] WhiteStar Magic: That was a giant Freebie Warehouse back in the beginning with piles of stuff... some good but mostly trashy crap
[2019/03/02 11:41] saphy riler: Oh I have no idea, just thought I would share and annoy...:)
[2019/03/02 11:41] Koni Lanzius: well, I second that intention to keep this grid free
[2019/03/02 11:41] albertlr Landar: well everything on the OSgrid plazas is free.
[2019/03/02 11:41] Ubit Umarov: (some good but mostly trashy crap) == freebies :)
[2019/03/02 11:41] Koni Lanzius: a good thing to endorse
[2019/03/02 11:41] saphy riler: Its not Osgrid fault truly
[2019/03/02 11:41] Koni Lanzius: i see
[2019/03/02 11:41] Wizard Atazoth: osgrid dosn't charge for land
[2019/03/02 11:41] Koni Lanzius: or stuff
[2019/03/02 11:41] albertlr Landar: nope and never has
[2019/03/02 11:42] Koni Lanzius: or anything
[2019/03/02 11:42] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: what about the gobits and sublenting
answer: Individual sim owners have their own choice if they wish to use gobits, or rent their land. OSgrid does not support gobits, nor charge for anything.
[2019/03/02 11:42] Koni Lanzius: the difference between this grid and friendly free sharing and a closed grid is huge
[2019/03/02 11:42] albertlr Landar: and its up to what others want to do with their own sims they connect to OSgrid.
[2019/03/02 11:42] Ubit Umarov: well one day ppl should consider deleting the bad or outdated things
[2019/03/02 11:42] Koni Lanzius: we are like ohana here
[2019/03/02 11:42] Wizard Atazoth: some hosts may charge but they are third party. anyone can run a region on there own
[2019/03/02 11:43] Koni Lanzius: in the closed grids its just one big hustle
[2019/03/02 11:43] albertlr Landar: I know a lot of them offer free land, and many offer their creations for free in their own shops.
[2019/03/02 11:43] Wizard Atazoth: yea
[2019/03/02 11:43] albertlr Landar: Its just a matter of looking for them.
[2019/03/02 11:43] Ubit Umarov: vehicle scrips for old ode will not work on either the other engines, etc
[2019/03/02 11:43] paela argus: free have limit of what server can offer
[2019/03/02 11:43] paela argus: :)
[2019/03/02 11:43] paela argus: is my answer
[2019/03/02 11:44] albertlr Landar: paela is working on making the searches easier to use on OSgrid eventually.
[2019/03/02 11:44] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: yaaaa
[2019/03/02 11:44] Koni Lanzius: i made this in honor of this wonderful grid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6BSrxvnwqk
[2019/03/02 11:44] albertlr Landar: so finding them in the future should be better.
[2019/03/02 11:44] Koni Lanzius: says it all
[2019/03/02 11:44] paela argus: well search can work good now :)
[2019/03/02 11:44] paela argus: if peoples start use it proper
[2019/03/02 11:44] Koni Lanzius: ya goota be a firefly fan to get the references tho...
[2019/03/02 11:44] Wizard Atazoth: great show
[2019/03/02 11:45] paela argus: description of land now have key
[2019/03/02 11:45] Koni Lanzius: hi Matilda
[2019/03/02 11:45] paela argus: shoes,clothe etc
[2019/03/02 11:45] Matilda Charron: hi koni
[2019/03/02 11:45] saphy riler: nice job! cant wait to check it out
[2019/03/02 11:45] paela argus: and enable in option of the land show in search
[2019/03/02 11:45] George Equus: Hello Matilda'
[2019/03/02 11:45] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: i dont go door to door i use area searech
[2019/03/02 11:45] Matilda Charron: hi george
[2019/03/02 11:47] albertlr Landar: So any other topics to discuss this week, anyone?
[2019/03/02 11:47] albertlr Landar: Looks like some problems with firestorm for several people
[2019/03/02 11:47] saphy riler: I see great things for Osgrid with the talented people working on one common goal, and to all I say thank you for that and I do have to go, it was lovely seeing you all again.
[2019/03/02 11:48] Koni Lanzius: big hugs Saphy!
[2019/03/02 11:48] Koni Lanzius: see ya
[2019/03/02 11:48] albertlr Landar: well glad to have your input saphy
[2019/03/02 11:48] paela argus: yes please limit iar save and iar load
[2019/03/02 11:48] Koni Lanzius: ahh ok
[2019/03/02 11:48] albertlr Landar: yea, paela mentioned that last week.
[2019/03/02 11:49] paela argus: =)
[2019/03/02 11:49] albertlr Landar: Seems some have been saving their iars rather frequently, which puts a huge slow down on the servers.
[2019/03/02 11:49] albertlr Landar: maybe they are running a script which is doing that.
[2019/03/02 11:50] George Equus: Not much point in saving a complete IAR regularly is there? Couple of times a year should be enough for most I imagine.
[2019/03/02 11:50] Koni Lanzius: but that doesnt affect the grid if you host your own server right?
[2019/03/02 11:50] paela argus: someone in mantis have said use it for sync inventory in both grids
[2019/03/02 11:50] paela argus: hahaha
[2019/03/02 11:50] albertlr Landar: puts a strain on the assets I would think.
[2019/03/02 11:50] Koni Lanzius: huh
[2019/03/02 11:50] Koni Lanzius: did not know that
[2019/03/02 11:50] Ubit Umarov: region is just "middle man" iar is grid inventory
[2019/03/02 11:50] WhiteStar Magic: if server attached to grid then grid DB is used as assets are not stored l;ocally on grid-attached
[2019/03/02 11:50] Koni Lanzius: guess i should do some house cleaning
[2019/03/02 11:51] Danger Lytton: it has to pull asets for the avi from the grid asset server koni
[2019/03/02 11:51] Koni Lanzius: i see
[2019/03/02 11:51] paela argus: is not the part of assets iar
[2019/03/02 11:51] paela argus: is the part of inventory
[2019/03/02 11:52] paela argus: and i'm tired to see osgrid problem by that
[2019/03/02 11:52] Danger Lytton: something i noticed the other day is when u rez a box of assets onto a region in another grid - the server has to get all the items from grid assets and then put them into the other grids asset server
[2019/03/02 11:52] Danger Lytton: and if the box is jammed with items can take a long time
[2019/03/02 11:52] WhiteStar Magic: yep
[2019/03/02 11:52] Koni Lanzius: interesting
[2019/03/02 11:53] George Equus: I consider my Inventory HUGE at 17000 but that is probably nothing.... :)
[2019/03/02 11:53] paela argus: if I still see abuse I will have to put throttles in the inventory and it will become very slow to load the inventory with an empty cache viewer
[2019/03/02 11:53] Ubit Umarov: no miracles..
[2019/03/02 11:53] WhiteStar Magic: little box can be many megabytes of data
[2019/03/02 11:53] Ubit Umarov: the assets need to be copied or things will not work
[2019/03/02 11:53] Danger Lytton: so if shopping off grid andu pick up a box of STUFF - and rez it - thats what will happen and slows down both grids for a while
[2019/03/02 11:53] Koni Lanzius: will you notify people before you do that, Paela?
[2019/03/02 11:53] Matilda Charron: can take days to end up with, couldn't be saved
[2019/03/02 11:54] paela argus: remember last years of slow loading inventory ?
[2019/03/02 11:54] Azi Az: yes
[2019/03/02 11:54] paela argus: that caused by throttle in server grid
[2019/03/02 11:54] paela argus: i have make more allowed
[2019/03/02 11:54] paela argus: but peoples abuse
[2019/03/02 11:54] dan banner is Offline
[2019/03/02 11:55] WhiteStar Magic: Interestingly, my IARS are typically 700MB to 1.1GB... Just having reloaded my inventory, I hit 28,000+ Luckily NOT on a Grid Server... too much to go.
[2019/03/02 11:55] dan banner is Online
[2019/03/02 11:55] Ubit Umarov: hopefully ppl will have less reasons to clear viewers cache
[2019/03/02 11:55] paela argus: that exactly what george have said save inventory is a good deal 2 times max per years not need more
[2019/03/02 11:55] Ubit Umarov: that does help a lot
[2019/03/02 11:55] paela argus: if you wanna save more think inventory make box in a sim and use save oar
[2019/03/02 11:55] paela argus: :)
[2019/03/02 11:55] Koni Lanzius: ahh
[2019/03/02 11:56] Koni Lanzius: we should get the word out on that then
[2019/03/02 11:56] Ubit Umarov: ohh paela was at inworldz closing :p
[2019/03/02 11:56] Koni Lanzius: we have many new folks that may not realize stuff like that
[2019/03/02 11:56] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: some need a warehouse
[2019/03/02 11:56] WhiteStar Magic: best is to have a "Storage Sim" which you can pile everything onto and bring up when you want (and have it as an OAR as backup)
[2019/03/02 11:56] Koni Lanzius: 'yea I do that
[2019/03/02 11:56] Total Sorbet: thats a great idea
[2019/03/02 11:56] George Equus: That's a really good tip, boxing stuff on a region and save an OAR
[2019/03/02 11:56] paela argus: yep is what i use
[2019/03/02 11:56] albertlr Landar: and then purge your inventory to just what you need
[2019/03/02 11:57] paela argus: i have a sim with a lots of suitcase ( box )
[2019/03/02 11:57] WhiteStar Magic: I think my scripts to do just that are still in the WIKI
[2019/03/02 11:57] Koni Lanzius: we could maybe put posters up or somehting
[2019/03/02 11:57] Koni Lanzius: as the new folks arrive
[2019/03/02 11:57] albertlr Landar: you save to you land, and then purge your inventory.
[2019/03/02 11:57] paela argus: i have 19 k of inventory before of done that i is 89 k of itmes
[2019/03/02 11:57] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: or a class
[2019/03/02 11:57] Koni Lanzius: yea
[2019/03/02 11:57] paela argus: but for example a inventory of 19 k is 8 gio of iar
[2019/03/02 11:58] albertlr Landar: Maybe there are some that could offer storage factilities for those without land ownership.
[2019/03/02 11:58] paela argus: you see the mistake
[2019/03/02 11:58] Koni Lanzius: that would be an enourmous help
[2019/03/02 11:58] Koni Lanzius: im sure everyone would cooperate if they understood the issue
[2019/03/02 11:58] paela argus: that why i grrrr to ubit for he change iar system :D
[2019/03/02 11:59] Ubit Umarov: wlel iar is part of opensim features, cant remove it
[2019/03/02 11:59] albertlr Landar: well maybe can discuss a program we could set up next week.
[2019/03/02 11:59] WhiteStar Magic: one option I setup on another grid, allowed people to do IAR or OAR off their grid regions but where stored to a file repository on said web server and downloaded by user after completion....
[2019/03/02 11:59] Koni Lanzius: very good
[2019/03/02 11:59] Ubit Umarov: and you all seen what not having it meant for inwordz users
[2019/03/02 11:59] paela argus: i do not have said remove iar i mean make limit of ask grid with that
[2019/03/02 11:59] Koni Lanzius: let me know how I can help
[2019/03/02 11:59] paela argus: you not need burn info for save a iar
[2019/03/02 11:59] Koni Lanzius: maybe wiz and I can make some materials
[2019/03/02 12:00] Total Sorbet: maybe save iar tokens on webby?
[2019/03/02 12:00] Ubit Umarov: and by definition osgrid has no control on that
[2019/03/02 12:00] Koni Lanzius: is that like google drive?
[2019/03/02 12:00] paela argus: for have 1 tb of iar users in disk server nahhh louise
[2019/03/02 12:00] Ubit Umarov: any one can run own regions, change its config, even its code
[2019/03/02 12:00] paela argus: :D
[2019/03/02 12:01] paela argus: we can have the control
[2019/03/02 12:01] albertlr Landar: well we are at the top of the hour at 12 noon.
[2019/03/02 12:01] paela argus: but we suck the load of inventory in general
[2019/03/02 12:01] Moto.Sapa @micachee.outworldz.net:8002: could do drop box off the pc and pff the grid
[2019/03/02 12:01] albertlr Landar: So thanks for coming and lets continue discussions of a possible effort to get people to reduce their inventories next week.
[2019/03/02 12:01] paela argus: you like make throttle ubit :)
[2019/03/02 12:01] Mal.Burns @metaworld.outworldz.net:8002 is Online
[2019/03/02 12:01] Koni Lanzius: lets continue this idea in next session!
[2019/03/02 12:01] paela argus: :-P~~
[2019/03/02 12:01] paela argus: make throttle in iar
[2019/03/02 12:02] albertlr Landar: paela, peop[e do not like throttles.
[2019/03/02 12:02] George Equus: Thanks Albert
[2019/03/02 12:02] Koni Lanzius: no
[2019/03/02 12:02] Danger Lytton throttles ubit and paela
[2019/03/02 12:02] paela argus: user like have have a instant rezz
[2019/03/02 12:02] albertlr Landar: if other means are possible lets try those please.
[2019/03/02 12:02] Koni Lanzius: ~** HAHAHA! **~
[2019/03/02 12:02] Ubit Umarov: well and ppl will blog on how to remove them
[2019/03/02 12:02] albertlr Landar: ture
[2019/03/02 12:02] albertlr Landar: true
[2019/03/02 12:02] Ubit Umarov: like we ween on others
[2019/03/02 12:02] paela argus: but i not see where is the problem a iar take 5 hour of 50 min in normal think
[2019/03/02 12:03] albertlr Landar: Well thanks for coming everyone and the spirited topics.
[2019/03/02 12:03] albertlr Landar: I have to run, the dog is calling.
[2019/03/02 12:03] Koni Lanzius: thanks Albiritr!
[2019/03/02 12:03] Ubit Umarov: iar is very slow
[2019/03/02 12:03] Total Sorbet: tc albert
[2019/03/02 12:03] Ubit Umarov: but yes does need work
[2019/03/02 12:03] albertlr Landar: See you all next week.
[2019/03/02 12:03] Koni Lanzius: bye everyone , great meeting!
[2019/03/02 12:03] paela argus: problem are in save inventory folder ubit if that can help
[2019/03/02 12:04] Azi Az: Take care everyone :)))))
[2019/03/02 12:04] Matilda Charron: bye Azi
[2019/03/02 12:04] albertlr Landar: take care, and slow down your backup please
[2019/03/02 12:04] cilla teebrook: laters all
[2019/03/02 12:04] Koni Lanzius is Offline
[2019/03/02 12:04] Lucky Chiung: take care all
[2019/03/02 12:04] George Equus: Till next week.


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